Originally posted by Palynka
I agree that it's less interesting and more vulgar performers are the ones that get more airtime. Most of the ones I like I've never ever seen on tv or heard on the radio.
I was put off good hip-hop for years because of it and rediscovered it through DJ Shadow and DJ Krush, which are basically electronic music with a lot of hip-hop roots.
Originally posted by badmoonI would love for you to come up with anything like these rhymes...
Rap is a parasite on the music scene. It is an absolutely vile waste of time. It is completely shallow and totally debases women. Plus any idiot can do it.
To those of you who listen to it - just one time listen to something else - jazz, rock, classical, country, native American chants..anything!! You'll be exposed to things like singing, melodie a higher denominator of music. Rap is completing what disco failed to do...destroying music.
Sinny Sin Sin's - Roots Manuva
Woke up one Sunday, feeling kinda raw
I said "Dad, I don't really want to go Church no more"
Soon as I said shit, I felt a slap to my jaw
He said "Son, as long as your living under my roof
Your gonna heed my interpretation of the truth
And the truth is right here
It's written in this book the Holy Bible
It's the key to survival so you best heed the word"
He said, "Do as I say, not what I do
And you'll see, goodness will follow you"
begrudgingly, I ironed my shirt, polish my shoes
Went to Chruch and I took in their far-out views
with their strange perceptions of Heaven and Hell.
To this very day I still fight down their spell
'Cos all that we pray, we still stay poor
With that leaky roof dripping on the front room floor.
Please don't get me twisted, I'm far from a heathen
This is just a simple song of basic rhyme and reason
It's not my meaning to demean or blaspheme
But most things in the Bible ain't as plain as they seem
Can I trust King James to translate these papers?
Do I need a middle-man to link with the creator
Amazing grace, how sweet the sound
Church band plays, now I'm spending my pound
Looking for a short-cut to the road to Zion
We can't fool God, but we wasting time trying
Two third of the truth is yet to be told
Two thousand years of corruption soon unfold
Slim Kid Tre's verse in Runnin' - The Pharcyde
There comes a time in every mans life when he's gotta
handle biz up on his own, Can't depend on friends to
help you in a sqeeze, please they got problems of their
own, Down for the count on seven chickens shits don't
get to heaven til they faced these fears in these fear
zones, Used to get jacked back in high school I played
it cool just so some real s**t won't get full blown, Being
where I'm from they let the smoke come quicker than an
evil red-neck could lynch a helpless colored figure, And
as a victim I invented low-key til the keyhole itself got
lower than me, So I stood up and let my free form form
free I don't sweat it I let the bulls**t blow in the breeze,
in other words just freeze
The Coup – Head of State
In a land not very far away from here
George W. Bush was drinkin beer
His daddy was head of the CIA
Now listen up close to what I say
The CIA worked for Standard Oil
And other companies to whom they're loyal
In a whole 'nother land by the name of Iran
The people got wise and took a stand
to the oil companies, ay ain't s**t funny?
This is our oil, our land, our money
CIA got mad and sent false info
to Iraq to help start the Iran/Iraq wo'
Pronounced war if I have to be proper
The CIA is the cops that's why I hate the coppers
Saddam Hussein was their man out there
They told him to rule while keepin people scared
Sayin any opposition to him, he must crush it
He gassed the Kurds, they gave him his budget
Said you gotta kick @rs to protect our cash
Step out of line and feel our wrath
You know the time without lookin at the little hand
Time came for them to cut out the middle man
Children maimed with no legs and s**t
Cause the "Bombs Over.." you know the OutKast hit
And they really want you to hate him dead
When just the other day they made him head
War ain't about one land against the next
It's poor people dyin so the rich cash checks
NAS – Get Down
New York streets where killers'll walk like Pistol Pete
And Pappy Mason, gave the young boys admiration
Prince from Queens and Fritz from Harlem
Street legends, the drugs kept the hood from starvin
Pushin cars, Nicky Barnes was the 70's
But there's a long list of high-profile celebrities
Worldwide on the thorough side of things
Livest kings, some died, one guy, one time
one day grabs me, as I'm about to blast heat
40-side of Vernon, I turned well he asked me
"Whatchu up to, the cops gon' bust you"
I was a teen drunk off brew, stumbled I wondered
if God sent him, cause two squad cars entered the block
and looked at us, I ain't flinch when they watched
I took it upstairs, the bathroom mirror, brushed my hair
Starin at a young disciple, I almost gave my life to what the dice do
Originally posted by Freddie2006Good point. It is an easy way out. You certainly don't need to know anything about music thoery.
Or perhaps a lot of people living "in da hood" see people from their background turning into world famous artists, and they realise that there is a way out.
Just get the right shoes and jerseys and you're half way home.
My biggest problem are with the jerks that dominate the scene that you see on MTV who rap about getting high and treating women like dirt. Music is secondary.
Originally posted by badmoonI wholeheartedly agree. I despise that scene as much as you do, believe me. But there's a lot more to rap/hip-hop than that.
My biggest problem are with the jerks that dominate the scene that you see on MTV who rap about getting high and treating women like dirt. Music is secondary.
Rap can incorperate chess:
I set my moves up strategically, enemy kings are taken easily
Knights move four spaces, in place of bishops east of me
Communicate with pawns on a telepathic frequency
Smash knights with mics in militant mental fights, it seems to be
An everlasting battle on the 64-block geometric metal battlefield
The sword of my rook, will shatter your feeble battle shield
I witness a bishop that'll wield his mystic sword
And slaughter every player who inhabits my chessboard
Knight to Queen's three, I slice through MC's
Seize the rook's towers and the bishop's ministries
Minstrels sing songs and mimic me, but cease to live instantly
Hidden deep within me is a sinister entity
Intentions of tense intent in ten tents
Where kings rest in beds with queens' breasts exposed for sex
To the crease or release tension, tends to tense men
When traitorous defense is fencing kingsmen
I quickly push the whore up from off of me
Trying to understand this battle of psychology
Psychotic, I slice optics of cyclops
In water with warlocks, through Indian corn stalks
Chessboard blocks become blood-red
Blood clots block brains and lock with thoughts of pawns in shock
I shot, crossbows and toss flows across moats
To pierce the archer's armor, armed with arrows
Pole points from elbows, with joints joined with marrow
To maim, the tip of the arrows lit with flame
Checkmate - the death of your king ends the game
You might also be interested in this: http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=3223
Originally posted by badmoonSee my last post in the thread I linked to on page 2.
Good point. It is an easy way out. You certainly don't need to know anything about music thoery.
Just get the right shoes and jerseys and you're half way home.
My biggest problem are with the jerks that dominate the scene that you see on MTV who rap about getting high and treating women like dirt. Music is secondary.
Ok, I caught it.
"I've got to tell him straight that I think that he's wrong,
so hopefully by the end of this rap he'll be singing along.
Rap ain't bad is just a form of expression,
Not all of it's about drugs, sex and agression."
A lot of great music isn't being heard because of all of the attention paid the rappers who go on about drugs, sex and aggression. Man, it is so much about marketing and so little about substance.
All right, I asked my wife who's a grandma. She says "There's some good hip hop songs. Hip hop isn't the same as rap, hon." Jeeze! The woman's been watching MTV videos.
Gotta put on some Miles. Your rhymes are clever, I'll give you that. Do it to some piano, drums, base and guitar and sing it.
Originally posted by badmoon"38-24-37
Ok, I caught it.
"I've got to tell him straight that I think that he's wrong,
so hopefully by the end of this rap he'll be singing along.
Rap ain't bad is just a form of expression,
Not all of it's about drugs, sex and agression."
A lot of great music isn't being heard because of all of the attention paid the rappers who go on about drugs, sex an ...[text shortened]... er, I'll give you that. Do it to some piano, drums, base and guitar and sing it.
You and me, hun, we're a match made in heaven"
From a time when rapping about women's curves wasn't about misogyny.
Originally posted by badmoonYou know, you might have a point though. I mean, if you're not a fan of rap, most of the stuff you'd come across would be the garbage they play on MTV and/or popular radio stations. Most of that IS crap. You have to delve a little deeper to find the real talent. But of course, the same could be said about nearly any type of music. A lot of the better stuff has roots in jazz and some other genres that you probably appreciate more. Check out Digable Planets or US3 for example. There's definitely talent out there. You just have to look for it.
Rap is a parasite on the music scene. It is an absolutely vile waste of time. It is completely shallow and totally debases women. Plus any idiot can do it.
To those of you who listen to it - just one time listen to something else - jazz, rock, classical, country, native American chants..anything!! You'll be exposed to things like singing, melodie ...[text shortened]... a higher denominator of music. Rap is completing what disco failed to do...destroying music.