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Originally posted by Luck
I do not believe in a pre-set number of messages. I personally post in average 2 messages per day, but I may have few weeks between the postings. I easily post more than ten on a "busy" day!

Harri
I suggested a monthly limit, not a daily one. I meant that everyone, on average, should be limited to one or two posts a day. If someone didn't post anything for weeks they'd be able to save their unused posts for later.

If there was a limit of 50 posts a month, I'm sure that 99% of the people on the site woudn't be affected. Only the spammers would be hit.

-Dave

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Originally posted by Luck
Even if the person creates a new account, it would be easily recognized and then suspended.
I am not an internet expert but i do not see how a new nickname can easily be recognised as the same as another persons.

-trekkie

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Originally posted by Luck
I do not believe in a pre-set number of messages. I personally post in average 2 messages per day, but I may have few weeks between the postings. I easily post more than ten on a "busy" day!

Harri
If you do not post for a while, then your allowable number of posts would keep growing by two per day. You could then come back at a later date and make any number of posts, as long as you didn't exceed the number you had "held in reserve", so to speak.

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Chat room type moderation is the only way to stop chat room like behaviour. A moderator that can stop someone from posting in a thread for a certain amount of time or something like that.
When you just put limits on posts then you're killing the whole free speech feel of the forum.
Better moderation is probably the only viable solution (although maybe not practical).

And you can't really say you're not going to allow Hotmail addresses or the like. I use my hotmail account for this site and others in order not to get my ISP mailbox flooded with spam (obviously before I realised that there isn't any spam forthcoming from this site).

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Originally posted by trekkie
I am not an internet expert but i do not see how a new nickname can easily be recognised as the same as another persons.

-trekkie
Unless the person does something stupid, such as choose another anagram of their original nickname, it wiil be difficult to spot.

Perhaps joiners should be made to agree to a code of conduct, saying that they will not have more than one nickname. It might not deter everyone, but would give a clear signal that this sort of behaviour is not tolerated.

Another solution, which I've argued before, is that everyone has to pay to use the site, although there would be a free trial period of a month or so, to try out the site.

If people lost money as a result of being banned, it would be much more of a deterrent.

-Dave

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Originally posted by David Tebb
Unless the person does something stupid, such as choose another anagram of their original nickname, it wiil be difficult to spot.
A spammer is a spammer. If they use another name and spam under that, that username should be banned as well.
If they behave with their new or alternate username no problem.

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Originally posted by Varg
A spammer is a spammer. If they use another name and spam under that, that username should be banned as well.
If they behave with their new or alternate username no problem.
I agree about the spammers.

I was thinking of people who have been banned for various offences, not just abusing the forums, who come back under different nicknames. (remember Tuco/Tucoisalive?).
I don't think someone who has been kicked off the site because of appalling behaviour should be allowed back under any circumstances.

-Dave

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Originally posted by rwingett
The situation in the RHP forums is rapidly becoming intolerable. What used to be an entertaining and informative forum for discussion is being increasingly reduced to a trivial chat room for a gaggle of teenage morons. It is becoming more and more difficult to find anything that passes for meaningful discussion here anymore. Why would anyone want to sift th ...[text shortened]... bmitting it to the proper forum. Comments by anyone other than CFC and LivingLegend are welcome.
A lot of the problems regarding this have resulted from the fact that we introduced the "posters" table for players with the highest number of posts. In retrospect this was probably a mistake.

We will soon be removing all references to "post count" as we no longer believe that the number of posts made by a player is directly proportionaly to a player's participation level in the RHP community.

There's a difficult balance to strike. I would not wish to limit the number of posts that someone can make in any given period of time. There are situations where you may make a post and have a lot of questions directed back at you where you need to respond and it would be unfair if you were unable to do so.

We know from much feedback that the RHP forums are very important to this site. We will do everything we can to ensure that they do not become impotent.

Thanks for your patience,
Chris

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Chris, you beat me to the punch. I was going to suggest getting rid of the posters table, as it seems to be doing nothing but encouraging spamming.

Personally, I like David Tebb's idea of a one month trial period. The fee for joining is extremely reasonable, and I think one month should be sufficient to get a feel for the site and decide whether you would like to join.

Maybe we can discourage people from registering under multiple nicknames by checking their IP addresses? One account per IP address? I don't know how to do this, but I know that it is possible, since companies that sell banner ad space calculate per click fees based on the number of unique IP addresses that click on the banner.

More work for Russ, unfortunately, but there might be some ready-made code out there already that he could take advantage.

Unfortunately, it's the people who are already reasonable who will listen to reason. Trying to reason with the rest will probably be just a waste of time.

-mike

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Originally posted by legionnaire
Maybe we can discourage people from registering under multiple nicknames by checking their IP addresses? One account per IP address? I don't know how to do this, but I know that it is possible, since companies that sell banner ad space calculate per click fees based on the number of unique IP addresses that click on the banner.
Unfortunately that won't work. For instance, I always use RHP from my laptop rather than a static desktop machine. Sometimes I connext through my ISP, sometimes by dialing into our corporate network, sometimes connected to the corporate LAN and sometimes to the corporate wireless LAN. Each time I connect I may get a different IP address from a different DHCP server - that's 4 possible IP addresses.

I'm sure a lot of people will also connect from a home machine and a work machine, making two at least.

One way you could try is by physical address from a credit card or check payment to the site - it would be difficult for the spammers to get multiple addresses.

Regards,

Paul.

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I think things will change after some of these people realize they caused such a stink. I myself am a heavy poster, and I like to see the boards change. I was glad not to see me mentioned.

People enjoying the site is good, but there is a limit to it. I know it is a long shot, but rather than Number of posts it could be "quality" of posts. A simple rating system based on relevent to ignorable. Members would have buttons to rate these posts.... If it drops below a certain level the post is removed.

I'm not sure if it is easier or not, but perhaps a chat area. Will RHP be an answer?? I consider myself a chess player first here at this site, but I really like the social side of this site as well. I still think things will be better after tonight as far as off topic and too much posting goes.

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Originally posted by rwingett
The situation in the RHP forums is rapidly becoming intolerable. What used to be an entertaining and informative forum for discussion is being increasingly reduced to a trivial chat room for a gaggle of teenage morons. It is becoming more ...[text shortened]... m. Comments by anyone other than CFC and LivingLegend are welcome.
Do u wanna shut up?😠 u'd find that about 75% of my posts r useful. u r the one doing the damage now. u r getting some of these innocent people away now. The regulars r still posting. Maybe myself and Living Legend have a lot 2 talk about on different threads. Keep ur big mouth shut until u have something true 2 say.😠
I have just noticed Jeoin on the longest thread. Do u not call that spam?

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Originally posted by CFC
Do u wanna shut up?😠 u'd find that about 75% of my posts r useful. u r the one doing the damage now. u r getting some of these innocent people away now. The regulars r still posting. Maybe myself and Living Legend have a lot 2 talk about on ...[text shortened]... just noticed Jeoin on the longest thread. Do u not call that spam?
I think you will find that you are wrong, 75% (minimum, only on a good day) of your post are useful (at best).

The vast majority are worst than spam. At least the spammers on this site like uncle adam put their (spam) posts in predictable areas. Whilst you use annoying short hand and change topics in threads continously and everywhere.

Jeion is spamming but he is doing it somewhere controlable not everyone reads the longest thread because we expect spam there not every where else.

-trekkie

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Originally posted by CFC
Do u wanna shut up?😠 u'd find that about 75% of my posts r useful. u r the one doing the damage now. u r getting some of these innocent people away now. The regulars r still posting. Maybe myself and Living Legend have a lot 2 talk about on different threads. Keep ur big mouth shut until u have something true 2 say.😠
I have just noticed Jeoin on the longest thread. Do u not call that spam?
CFC,

Being rude is not going to help here - try talking to people, not shouting back at them.

Andrew

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Originally posted by latex bishop
CFC,

Being rude is not going to help here - try talking to people, not shouting back at them.

Andrew
Unfortunately, no matter what CFC's intentions are i expect nothing more than rude inconsiderate spamming from it/her/him.

-trekkie