The situation in the RHP forums is rapidly becoming intolerable. What used to be an entertaining and informative forum for discussion is being increasingly reduced to a trivial chat room for a gaggle of teenage morons. It is becoming more and more difficult to find anything that passes for meaningful discussion here anymore. Why would anyone want to sift through all the rubbish that gets posted to find an occasional post that has some worthwhile content to it?
LivingLegend has made 20+ posts in the General forum today alone, with many more in the other forums. That number will surely rise before I finish this post. This morning I had observed that CFC had made 554 posts in 90 days. About ten hours later he is up to 579. That is more than six and a half posts every day for three solid months. If all their rubbish were contained in the Longest Thread it might not be so bad. But it is not. They have infested every thread like a plague, and have brought them all careening down to their level of stupidity. Long standing members who used to frequent the forums are being driven away by the sheer level of banality that they have brought with them.
In an effort to preserve what quality remains in the forums, I would like to propose a posting cap for each member. I propose that everyone should be given a maximum number of 25 posts for a start. That total would increase by two per day. So upon implementation, members would be allowed 755 posts for their first year, and 730 post for every year thereafter. Nobody needs more than two posts per day to be able to express themselves adequately. Everything in excess of that is just irritating blather.
Of course, I am not a code writer. I do not know how easy this would be to implement. I realize too that people could maintian multiple identities to circumvent the cap. But at least we could inconvenience them by making them log in and out. I also realize that this probably should have been posted in the Help & Site Ideas forum, but I thought I would post it here first to gain feedback on the feasability of the idea before submitting it to the proper forum. Comments by anyone other than CFC and LivingLegend are welcome.
Rob, I am wondering if one possible solution would be to have a forum section by "buddies." In other words if say you and I were in a buddy section we could have our own forum section. We could get in, but others couldn't. I'm not sure how feasible this would be or exactly how it would work. Just thinking aloud. Comments? Kirk
Originally posted by rwingettHmmm two posts a day might be a bit limiting. I've posted more than that today. But I don't post every single day. Maybe a weekly or monthly limit would be better. Or maybe just cap the obvious culprits.
The situation in the RHP forums is rapidly becoming intolerable. What used to be an entertaining and informative forum for discussion is being increasingly reduced to a trivial chat room for a gaggle of teenage morons. It is becoming more ...[text shortened]... m. Comments by anyone other than CFC and LivingLegend are welcome.
Like you said, many people who used to post here have stopped, or left the site altogether.
To reply to kirksey: Interesting idea, but it might be intimidating and difficult for new site member to break into the clique.
Originally posted by rwingettI think we should make the rules before we impose them.
The situation in the RHP forums is rapidly becoming intolerable. What used to be an entertaining and informative forum for discussion is being increasingly reduced to a trivial chat room for a gaggle of teenage morons. It is becoming more and more difficult to find anything that passes for meaningful discussion here anymore. Why would anyone want to sift th ...[text shortened]... bmitting it to the proper forum. Comments by anyone other than CFC and LivingLegend are welcome.
If you do not like someone's post then skip it.
At what stage would an immature poster be allowed into the inner sanctom?
Elitism is not good.
Linda.
Originally posted by missleadThere would be no elitism. The cap would apply equally to everybody. Take yourself for example. You have been a member here for 14+ months and have made 730 posts. That is within the limit that I propose. Your posting habits would not be affected. Actually, very few people would be affected.
I think we should make the rules before we impose them.
If you do not like someone's post then skip it.
At what stage would an immature poster be allowed into the inner sanctom?
Elitism is not good.
Linda.
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Originally posted by rwingettRob,
There would be no elitism. The cap would apply equally to everybody. Take yourself for example. You have been a member here for 14+ months and have made 730 posts. That is within the limit that I propose. Your posting habits would not be affected. Actually, very few people would be affected.
I would rather see quality control rather than quantity control to be honest. I do not care if someone makes 1000 posts in a day if they are a pleasure to read. We just need to contain the virus that is affecting every thread. If you set a limit on posts that will not improve the quality of posting. I think we need to engage with these youngsters rather than just slapping them down. If not that then give them somewhere else to play - I do not think we can just sweep them under the carpet.
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I think that everyone should be limited to somewhere between 30 and 50 posts a month.
People who abuse the forums should have their posting rights suspended, and in extreme cases taken away.
Of course, something first needs to be done to stop people having multiple nicknames. Otherwise they will just keep posting using different ones.
-Dave
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Originally posted by latex bishopHow would quality control be implemented? I don't think we should place extra burdens on the moderators to decide whether a post is of a high enough quality.
I would rather see quality control rather than quantity control to be honest. I do not care if someone makes 1000 posts in a day if they are a pleasure to read. We just need to contain the virus that is affecting every thread. If you set a limit on posts that will not improve the quality of posting.
Andrew.[/b]
If people were only allowed to make one or two posts a day, don't you think they would wait until they had something worthwhile to say? I know that I would.
-Dave
Originally posted by David TebbMultiple nicknames is impossible to stop, you only need a new email address. You could steal someone elses email address, use one of the countless free email services, or make up a non-existent email address.
Of course, something first needs to be done to stop people having multiple nicknames. Otherwise they will just keep posting using different ones.
-Dave
All three options are easy to do, personally i have two nics on this site though one has been dead for months never to rise to life again. But at the same time i have 4 other email addresses or aliases that people can contact me one and isue regularly.
So how on earth are you going to stop it, I am sure Chris, Russ and the rest of us would like some ideas.
-trekkie
Originally posted by latex bishopI understand your sentiment, and sympathize with it to a certain degree. If you can singlehandedly get them to listen to reason and save the forums, then you should be awarded RHP's highest medal of commendation. Of course, then my proposal would become superfluous. But I have looked carefully at other people's posting tallies. I do not think anyone who would be considered "a pleasure to read" has exceeded my proposed two per day limit. Quite the contrary to your assertion, I think that a limit would improve the overall quality of the forums. People would be less inclined to fritter them away on trivial posts and would be more likely to save them for when they had something actually worth saying. Nobody is sweeping them under the rug. They are still free to post in the forums, they would just have to learn how to use that privilege more wisely.
Rob,
I would rather see quality control rather than quantity control to be honest. I do not care if someone makes 1000 posts in a day if they are a pleasure to read. We just need to contain the virus that is affecting every thread. If you set a limit on posts that will not improve the quality of posting. I think we need to engage with these youngster ...[text shortened]... them somewhere else to play - I do not think we can just sweep them under the carpet.
Andrew.
Originally posted by trekkieAnother chess site which I have used on occasion (possibly freechess.org) does not allow registration with free e-mail addresses such as hotmail and yahoo.
Multiple nicknames is impossible to stop, you only need a new email address. You could steal someone elses email address, use one of the countless free email services, or make up a non-existent email address.
All three options are easy to do, personally i have two nics on this site htough one has been dead for months never to rise to life again. But at th ...[text shortened]... ou going to stop it, I am sure Chris, Russ and the rest of us would like some ideas.
-trekkie
It's an idea. Then you can only use your ISP address. Although I know I have an ISP address and a work address...
Originally posted by VargOnly realliy limits one of the three options, additionally i know a lot of people use this site from public computers so persumely they only have access to email address
Another chess site which I have used on occasion (possibly freechess.org) does not allow registration with free e-mail addresses such as hotmail and yahoo.
It's an idea. Then you can only use your ISP address. Although I know I have an ISP address and a work address...
trekkie
Originally posted by trekkieWhat about having the moderators to discuss with the individual when the messages appears to become just for posting messages, without any substance?
Only realliy limits one of the three options, additionally i know a lot of people use this site from public computers so persumely they only have access to email address
trekkie
Abuse postings should be reduced by suspending the posting ability. Even if the person creates a new account, it would be easily recognized and then suspended.
Of course, we cannot stop people with abusive mentality, but they usually leave relatively soon, remember tyco!
We may need some more regular moderators, but some of them should have the ability to temporarily suspend a user until it is approved by Chris and/or Russ.
Harri
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Originally posted by David TebbI do not believe in a pre-set number of messages. I personally post in average 2 messages per day, but I may have few weeks between the postings. I easily post more than ten on a "busy" day!
How would quality control be implemented? I don't think we should place extra burdens on the moderators to decide whether a post is of a high enough quality.
If people were only allowed to make one or two posts a day, don't you think they would wait until they had something worthwhile to say? I know that I would.
-Dave
Harri