You, Sir, have just spoken your own perception of human life for which your mother's womb provided the viable fetus to which God Himself imparted soul life to biological life the moment you inhaled your first breath. No, my Almost Friend, you are not being "honest" at all .Rather, you are the victim of self deception, self justification, self absorption ...[text shortened]... race would ever wish to go. You, Sir, are far more to be pitied than scorned. Kind Regards, Bob[/b]
Not all of us buy in to the whole 'God thing' GB. I think you are straying into Dasa territory suggesting someone is not honest for not believing as you do. I also don't think you know Seitse well enough to make such a personal judgement about him.
Originally posted by HandyAndy Seitse takes life as it comes.
"If good stuff happens, I enjoy it," says he. "If bad stuff happens then I am never disappointed."
Where is the self-deception?
Within their immaterial souls.
Continual daily pressures are what life itself does to us all.
Stress is what we allow or enable those "daily pressures" to do to our bodies
as well as our "immaterial souls."
Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke Not all of us buy in to the whole 'God thing' GB. I think you are straying into Dasa territory suggesting someone is not honest for not believing as you do. I also don't think you know Seitse well enough to make such a personal judgement about him.
GD, would you prefer an insightful observation from the groves of academe and/or these secular statements from the pen of William Styron?
If so, please read on...“Depression is a disorder of mood, so mysteriously painful and elusive in the way it becomes known to the self--to the mediating intellect--as to verge close to being beyond description. It thus remains nearly incomprehensible to those who have not experienced it in its extreme mode, although the gloom, "the blues" which people go through occasionally and associate with the general hassle of everyday existence are of such prevalence that they do give many individuals a hint of the illness in its catastrophic form.” ―William Styron, Darkness Visible: A Memoir of Madness
Originally posted by Grampy Bobby Within their immaterial souls.
Continual daily pressures are what life itself does to us all.
Stress is what we allow or enable those "daily pressures" to do to our bodies
as well as our "immaterial souls."
If Seitse doesn't agree with your notion concerning the "immaterial soul," then how is he deceiving himself? Is life after death a given? Does everyone have to agree that life has a purpose set in stone by a creator? Does your imagination supersede his or mine?
Originally posted by Grampy Bobby If so, please read on...“Depression is a disorder of mood, so mysteriously painful and elusive in the way it becomes known to the self--to the mediating intellect--as to verge close to being beyond description. It thus remains nearly incomprehensible to those who have not experienced it in its extreme mode, although the gloom, "the blues" which people g ...[text shortened]... of the illness in its catastrophic form.” ―William Styron, Darkness Visible: A Memoir of Madness
...depression is a disorder ... illness ... madness ... I hope you're not suicidal ... psychopathy ... sadism ... self-deception ... psychotic jealousy ...
Originally posted by HandyAndy If Seitse doesn't agree with your notion concerning the "immaterial soul," then how is he deceiving himself? Is life after death a given? Does everyone have to agree that life has a purpose set in stone by a creator? Does your imagination supersede his or mine?
What Seitse or you or I believe is an individual matter.
God doesn't coerce human free will because He's a Gentleman.
Each of us decides our own address for eternity.
Originally posted by Grampy Bobby What Seitse or you or I believe is an individual matter.
God doesn't coerce human free will because He's a Gentleman.
Each of us decides our own address for eternity.
Why do you characterize the difference between your beliefs and his beliefs as dishonesty on his part? And what does it have to do with self-actualization?
Originally posted by Grampy Bobby What Seitse or you or I believe is an individual matter.
God doesn't coerce human free will because He's a Gentleman.
Each of us decides our own address for eternity.
According to your version of god; what will this "gentleman" do to those people whom he has not "coerced" into spending eternity at the right address?