Go back
Self Perception, Truth for all?

Self Perception, Truth for all?

General

mike69

Joined
20 May 16
Moves
41759
Clock
23 Dec 21

Do we see our individual thoughts, judgements, and choices as being correct and logic for all.

Is this clarity of inward and outward opinions and views of others and life reality for all or just individually formed due to where, how we were raised and our life experiences in all directions?

If we really could change our mindsets to acceptance, love and working together would we lose this incorrect view of self and see something different internal and external in a world seemingly covered by an invisible net of discourse and would we see our true selves at the same time.

I'm Just curious of thoughts nothing else.

Kevin Eleven

Joined
06 May 15
Moves
27445
Clock
23 Dec 21
Vote Up
Vote Down

This arbitrary dust-devil of narrative scraps thinks your questions are better than any of my answers would be, so just bumping this for others to consider.

mike69

Joined
20 May 16
Moves
41759
Clock
23 Dec 21

@Kevin-Eleven
Not at all Kevin. I was just thinking about this and wanted some other additional thoughts for expansion of not an end result.

Contenchess
Contentious

Joined
01 Sep 21
Moves
14125
Clock
23 Dec 21
1 edit

@mike69

First paragraph...Yes

Second paragraph...Yes (life experiences sway our opinions)

Third paragraph...Delusional...Impossible...The entire existence of man has been conflict.
To think modern people can solve that problem so we love and work together is laughable.

What exactly are you referring to?
This forum?
Racial?
World Peace?

Doesn't matter...it won't happen.

rookie54
free tazer tickles..

wildly content...

Joined
09 Mar 08
Moves
205566
Clock
23 Dec 21

fried okra

Kevin Eleven

Joined
06 May 15
Moves
27445
Clock
23 Dec 21
2 edits
Vote Up
Vote Down

@mike69 said
Do we see our individual thoughts, judgements, and choices as being correct and logic for all.

Is this clarity of inward and outward opinions and views of others and life reality for all or just individually formed due to where, how we were raised and our life experiences in all directions?

If we really could change our mindsets to acceptance, love and working together ...[text shortened]... rse and would we see our true selves at the same time.

I'm Just curious of thoughts nothing else.
1) I'm not in a position to know, but I imagine that might happen frequently (what you wrote in the first line -- but now that I think of it, also me not being in a position to know 😉 ).

2) Definitely arbitrary to a large extent, but we still have as much agency and ability to choose as we do, no matter how arbitrary or transitory those might be.

3) I'm not sure about the concept of "true selves" but I would agree that a lot of our problems are due to harmful mental narratives rather than physical or energetic constraints.

0) I'll admit that I often write in a compact, poetic way that looks more like decoration or intentional obscurity than a straightforward attempt to communicate, but sometimes that's the natural way for me to put my thoughts into words.

mike69

Joined
20 May 16
Moves
41759
Clock
23 Dec 21
Vote Up
Vote Down

@contenchess said
@mike69

First paragraph...Yes

Second paragraph...Yes (life experiences sway our opinions)

Third paragraph...Delusional...Impossible...The entire existence of man has been conflict.
To think modern people can solve that problem so we love and work together is laughable.

What exactly are you referring to?
This forum?
Racial?
World Peace?

Doesn't matter...it won't happen.
I didn’t say it was possible with us. I guess I’m just looking at my own life, the forums and just in General. Would you say if one and two are correct there’s a good chance three is also? This is in the context of maybe why we make the choices we make and is or would this be our true self or created?

I got an avatar for you 😁.

The Gravedigger
Jack Torrance

Overlook Hotel

Joined
04 Feb 11
Moves
49871
Clock
23 Dec 21

'Hell is other people'

Sartre

mike69

Joined
20 May 16
Moves
41759
Clock
23 Dec 21

@mike69
It also seems like a positive message (to me) instead of creating fake threads about having a truce??

Contenchess
Contentious

Joined
01 Sep 21
Moves
14125
Clock
23 Dec 21
Vote Up
Vote Down

@mike69

I noticed the avatar.
Much better 😉

The Gravedigger
Jack Torrance

Overlook Hotel

Joined
04 Feb 11
Moves
49871
Clock
23 Dec 21

@mike69 said
@mike69
It also seems like a positive message (to me) instead of creating fake threads about having a truce??
Maybe they were not 'fake' at all but a misplaced optimism for the human spirit

Kevin Eleven

Joined
06 May 15
Moves
27445
Clock
23 Dec 21
Vote Up
Vote Down

@mike69 said
@mike69
It also seems like a positive message (to me) instead of creating fake threads about having a truce??
It is, and some of us are talking back to the guy who started that thread.

mike69

Joined
20 May 16
Moves
41759
Clock
23 Dec 21
Vote Up
Vote Down

@rookie54
Just cut it before it gets too big and turns to rubber and useless.

Kevin Eleven

Joined
06 May 15
Moves
27445
Clock
23 Dec 21
Vote Up
Vote Down

@the-gravedigger said
'Hell is other people'

Sartre
"Party of one, your table is ready"

-- Villon

mike69

Joined
20 May 16
Moves
41759
Clock
23 Dec 21
Vote Up
Vote Down

@kevin-eleven said
1) I'm not in a position to know, but I imagine that might happen frequently (what you wrote in the first line -- but now that I think of it, also me not being in a position to know 😉 ).

2) Definitely arbitrary to a large extent, but we still have as much agency and ability to choose as we do, no matter how arbitrary or transitory those might be.

3) I'm not sure a ...[text shortened]... d attempt to communicate, but sometimes that's the natural way for me to put my thoughts into words.
It’s not a problem, no offense was taken. Its just a question from one person to another if they choose to be interested and answer. It’s positive and perceived? negative influences. If nothing else it is a possible way to understand one another??

Cookies help us deliver our Services. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Learn More.