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    Are there artists whose work you love where you have delighted in how your love for both the artist and their art conflate?

    And are there artists where your continuing love and respect for their work depends on you separating the artist from their art?
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    31 Jan '16 05:13
    Originally posted by FMF
    Are there artists whose work you love where you have delighted in how your love for both the artist and their art conflate?

    And are there artists where your continuing love and respect for their work depends on you separating the artist from their art?
    no, and yes...
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    I love the music Miles Davis made and clung on to his art as he turned some sharp corners in terms of what he was producing but there are things about his character and private life and his views on certain things that I just have to ignore.
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    31 Jan '16 07:171 edit
    Originally posted by FMF
    I love the music Miles Davis made and clung on to his art as he turned some sharp corners in terms of what he was producing but there are things about his character and private life and his views on certain things that I just have to ignore.
    I find myself often troubled by similar questions. Mostly, because
    it is hard to resolve the question, at least in my own thought process,
    of how much the work of art is influenced by the artist's character
    and everything that precedes and follows that particular creative
    process.

    Have you ever found that your enjoyment of a particular body of work
    increases or decreases when you find out a particular position/act by
    the artist?

    P.S. Bitches Brew is, perhaps, the most accomplished jazz album ever
    made --if, and only if, Pithecanthropus Erectus would have never
    been composed
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    31 Jan '16 07:251 edit
    Originally posted by Seitse
    Have you ever found that your enjoyment of a particular body of work
    increases or decreases when you find out a particular position/act by
    the artist?
    Yes. I think this is a slightly shallow one by me but it happened when I was still young and discovering and forming what were to become my outlook and opinions on things. I was a big fan of Neil Young but then felt differently about him when, in the 1980s, he revealed that he was a Reagan supporter. I found it very off-putting. I listen to his stuff sometimes and check out new albums but have never thought of him as highly as I did prior to our parting of ways.
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    31 Jan '16 07:371 edit
    Originally posted by FMF
    he revealed that he was a Reagan supporter
    Well, that's an obvious one, like supporting Hitler 🙂

    Anyway, Reaganism seems to be your pet peeve when it comes to
    artists then. While I find it annoying too, mine is their position towards
    the Middle East conflict.
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    31 Jan '16 08:261 edit
    Originally posted by Seitse
    Anyway, Reaganism seems to be your pet peeve when it comes to
    artists then.
    Er... Not really. I love the work of pianist Keith Jarrett but I've always found him off-puttingly pretentious and rude to his audiences and yet never openly rude enough about Reagan.

    I love Gary Peacock's bass playing but I would not shake his hand after he said something sniffy he said about Elvis Costello, whose album I like the most - Punch The Clock - came out in the middle of the Reagan years.

    I liked Blues Traveler in the 1990s until I discovered how often they played in states where opinion polls showed support for Oliver North whose activities Reagan "could not recall" when asked later.

    So I think you are overstating the Reagan connection.
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    31 Jan '16 09:00
    Originally posted by FMF
    I liked Blues Traveler in the 1990s until I discovered how often they played in states where opinion polls showed support for Oliver North whose activities Reagan "could not recall" when asked later.
    Isn't that digging way too much into stuff?

    Hey, I like "Born in the USA" even though Reagan and his chums
    didn't even pay attention to the lyrics and used it as a flag, when it
    is precisely a criticism of what they preach.
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    31 Jan '16 10:07
    Originally posted by FMF

    And are there artists where your continuing love and respect for their work depends on you separating the artist from their art?
    Gary Glitter
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    31 Jan '16 15:02
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    Gary Glitter
    Whoa! Now there is an extreme study case.
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    Rolf Harris
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    John Sessions
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    31 Jan '16 20:29
    Originally posted by Captain Strange
    Rolf Harris
    Was his portrait of the queen ever discovered?
    Maybe she burnt it.
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    Richard Wagner.

    Adore the music. Genius. BUT……..The man was an unpleasant, bigoted and arrogant S**T.
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