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    19 Jun '16 21:24
    Originally posted by HandyAndy
    You like Palin as veep for Trump?
    Why not ??

    Archie Bunker would have his dingbat !! πŸ˜€
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    19 Jun '16 21:35
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    You get no argument from me. I know all about it. US is in decline and has been for 100 years. Right now we are running on pure inertia. It will run its course in a couple more decades I am afraid. Which may be a good thing. All empires come to an end and the former king of the world is just another one of the guys like Federer, now shown to be human after all. And Serena for that matter, her # 1 days are numbered.
    You get no argument from me. I know all about it. US is in decline and has been for 100 years.
    You oughta know: you were in your twenties and remember when Woodrow Wilson re-initiated the State of the Union.
    Things were so simple back then, right?
    Pepperidge Farms and sonhouse remembers...
  3. Standard memberHandyAndy
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    20 Jun '16 01:15
    Originally posted by Seitse
    No, we don't envy you. The criticism is based on the US and US-based
    corporations having invaded, messed up, exploited, stolen from, intervened,
    pillaged, and abused foreign countries since stealing Hawaii from its owners in order
    to benefit some whites profiting from deposing Queen Liliuokalani*.

    That's, like, 120 years of non-stop bullying. So, it i ...[text shortened]... nger. And justified. No wonder the nutcases are fond of
    smashing planes into
    your buildings.
    The venom spewing from your wizened lips bespeaks your towering envy and resentful discontent. πŸ™‚
  4. Subscribersonhouse
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    20 Jun '16 09:29
    Originally posted by HandyAndy
    The venom spewing from your wizened lips bespeaks your towering envy and resentful discontent. πŸ™‚
    You THINK?
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    20 Jun '16 16:25
    Originally posted by HandyAndy
    The venom spewing from your wizened lips bespeaks your towering envy and resentful discontent. πŸ™‚
    What envy? Resentful discontent, yes. But envy? Of what? Your diabetes,
    bureaucracy, wealth gap, greed, or hypocrisy? Nah, thanks, we're happy up
    here in the most developed region of the world.
  6. Standard memberHandyAndy
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    20 Jun '16 16:48
    Originally posted by Seitse
    What envy? Resentful discontent, yes. But envy? Of what? Your diabetes,
    bureaucracy, wealth gap, greed, or hypocrisy? Nah, thanks, we're happy up
    here in the most developed region of the world.
    Disneyland?
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    20 Jun '16 17:17
    Originally posted by HandyAndy
    Disneyland?
    The ISIS headquarters, Jimbo.
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    21 Jun '16 18:151 edit
    What envy? Resentful discontent, yes. But envy? Of what? Your diabetes,
    bureaucracy, wealth gap, greed, or hypocrisy? Nah, thanks, we're happy up
    here in the most developed region of the world..
    It is still the place where a foreigner can land with a dollar in his pocket, a set of pecs, and a dream--and become: Mr. Universe, a movie star, Gubernator of California, marry the Kennedy's (he said they married him), and a movie star again. The American dream still lives.
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    21 Jun '16 19:56
    Originally posted by moonbus
    It is still the place where a foreigner can land with a dollar in his pocket, a set of pecs, and a dream--and become: Mr. Universe, a movie star, Gubernator of California, marry the Kennedy's (he said they married him), and a movie star again. The American dream still lives.
    No, the American Dream is dead. Check the social stats.

    It. Is. A. Myth.

    Like it or not. Fact.
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    21 Jun '16 19:58
    Originally posted by Seitse
    No, the American Dream is dead. Check the [b]social stats.

    It. Is. A. Myth.

    Like it or not. Fact.[/b]
    Maybe the American dream was just a dream ?
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    21 Jun '16 20:05
    Here we go, for the cowboys and the stories they've been spoon fed by
    their oligarchic masters.

    http://www.salon.com/2015/03/07/the_myth_destroying_america_why_social_mobility_is_beyond_ordinary_peoples_control/


    While a majority of Americans might think that hard work determines
    success and that it should be relatively simple business to climb and
    remain out of poverty, the reality is that the United States has a relatively
    entrenched upper class, but precarious, ever-shifting lower and middle
    classes. While many Americans might hate welfare, the data suggest they
    are fairly likely to fall into it at one point or another.
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    21 Jun '16 20:08
    Originally posted by Seitse
    Here we go, for the cowboys and the stories they've been spoon fed by
    their oligarchic masters.

    http://www.salon.com/2015/03/07/the_myth_destroying_america_why_social_mobility_is_beyond_ordinary_peoples_control/


    While a majority of Americans might think that hard work determines
    success and that it should be relatively simple business to climb a ...[text shortened]... elfare, the data suggest they
    are fairly likely to fall into it at one point or another.
    I heard that 1 in 100 Americans are millionaires. I guess the rest of us are stone cold broke.
  13. Standard memberSeitse
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    21 Jun '16 21:05
    Originally posted by josephw
    I heard that 1 in 100 Americans are millionaires. I guess the rest of us are stone cold broke.
    Some studies (Barclays and Capgemini if I recall correctly) talk about
    5.1 million HNWI (high net worth individuals), which is I think what you
    are after.

    There are 319 million people living in the US, so 1.5% of Americans are
    candidates to be hanged when the sheep finally realize their situation and
    revolt. Pretty much, as the regressive social mobility stats show, the next
    generation of pigs will be related to those right now in the 1.5%.
  14. Subscriberjosephw
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    21 Jun '16 21:50
    Originally posted by Seitse
    Some studies (Barclays and Capgemini if I recall correctly) talk about
    5.1 million HNWI (high net worth individuals), which is I think what you
    are after.

    There are 319 million people living in the US, so 1.5% of Americans are
    candidates to be hanged when the sheep finally realize their situation and
    revolt. Pretty much, as the regressive social mobility stats show, the next
    generation of pigs will be related to those right now in the 1.5%.
    So how much wealth do those HNWI have compared to the rest of us combined?
  15. Standard memberSeitse
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    22 Jun '16 10:49
    Originally posted by josephw
    So how much wealth do those HNWI have compared to the rest of us combined?
    It varies. In one of my prior incarnations the firm classified HNWI as over €1M in liquid assets. Underline liquid.
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