Originally posted by YEAH BOYThat is just not correct in NY.
The bar is respondsible for all ID's real or false
Alcoholic Beverage Control Act 65(4):
In any
proceeding pursuant to subdivision one of this section, it shall be an
affirmative defense that such person had produced a photographic
identification card apparently issued by a governmental entity and that
the alcoholic beverage had been sold, delivered or given to such person
in reasonable reliance upon such identification.
http://law.onecle.com/new-york/alcoholic-beverage-control/ABC065_65.html
Originally posted by trev33No, it is not. The provision is as follows:
ok i'll change my wording. the site is a 13+ site but if any legal matters came up for anyone aged 13-17 it would be in the hands of the person who can legally enter a contract. in this instance the person that the 13-17 year old used for their subscription purchase.
better?
3. YOUR REGISTRATION OBLIGATIONS
In consideration of your use of the Service, you represent that you are of legal age to form a binding contract
You (the user) must represent that they are of a legal age to form a binding contract. The rest of the paragraph spells out other obligations of the user like not making multiple accounts or using an engine. These provisions are binding on the user, not anybody else.
Originally posted by no1marauderso in NY the bar is not respondsible for an under age person acquireing alcholol with false ID? WRONG
That is just not correct in NY.
Alcoholic Beverage Control Act 65(4):
In any
proceeding pursuant to subdivision one of this section, it shall be an
affirmative defense that such person had produced a photographic
identification card apparently issued by a governmental entity and that
the alcoholic bev ...[text shortened]... uch identification.
http://law.onecle.com/new-york/alcoholic-beverage-control/ABC065_65.html
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Originally posted by Very Rustyso you managed that one all by your selfness? good for you 😛
ROFLMAO...It is spelled liar, and no I didn't, I saw no need it is a chess site, and pennys a day to use. I don't think I even read it over my self until I was here for quite awhile.
I know I was told to remember it was a G-rated 13+ site, by a mod in a friendly message on something I had said in the forum, and no I am not going to repeat it. 😛
i think you told me about that already.
edit: btw stop making fun of my dyslexia ðŸ˜
Originally posted by trev33Liquor laws are regulated by federal laws...States can make them more strict, but can not legally reduce them.
that's what i'm saying to.
although it may be different from state to state in america as no1twit has said, i don't know.
from past experience it's the bars responsibilities in florida.
Originally posted by trev33That simply not true. The way they catch them is by doing sting operations. As long as they always ask to see your ID they won't get caught. They don't even need to check if you look like you're 30 which is an opinion so they can get out of most fines anyway.
that was the worst example ever. if a bar serves booze to anyone under aged it doesn't matter if they used fake id or whatever, it's the bar responsibilities for not serving anyone under the legal age and they, the bar will get fined in caught.
and i have my u.s hat on here.
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Originally posted by trev33A lawyer was not needed. Come on it is a chess site with forums on it. That we pay pennys a day for. 😉
so you managed that one all by your selfness? good for you 😛
i think you told me about that already.
edit: btw stop making fun of my dyslexia ðŸ˜
There are some contracts, you or I could not understand unless we are lawyers. Some are very complicated, it only takes a word to change the whole meaning of something, and once signed, it is legally binding.
Sorry to hear about your problem with dyslexia, if you are telling the truth, if not shame on you!
Originally posted by trev33Really?
that's what i'm saying to.
although it may be different from state to state in america as no1twit has said, i don't know.
from past experience it's the bars responsibilities in florida.
Florida’s Dram Shop Law does allow the victims of drink driving accidents to sue bars, hotels or restaurants that sell alcohol to underage teens who are injured or injure others as a result, if the bar either didn’t ask for an ID or ignored an obviously fake ID.
http://seelielaw.com/blog/archives/181/comment-page-1