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Originally posted by SeitseSelf deception leads to self justification which eventuates in total self absorption, an unfortunate status in which an individual becomes hypersensitive to his/her own wishes and needs and insensitive to the wishes and needs of other people. Human beings in this status are far more to be pitied than scorned.
I was an accident. They did share my point of view.
Otherwise, your question makes no sense: unborn, I'd not be me, hence
incapable of pondering these matters a existence is the condition for
any epistemological pursuit.
Edit: Did their parents also share your "point of view"?
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyI don't think you understand the complexity of the philosophical
Self deception leads to self justification which eventuates in total self absorption, an unfortunate status in which an individual becomes hypersensitive to his/her own wishes and needs and insensitive to the wishes and needs of other people. Human beings in this status are far more to be pitied than scorned.
Edit: Did their parents also share your "point of view"?
question you, by accident, posited --and the response you got in
the same vein. Sophisms may sound witty but are not correct. And
emotional answers to serious questions are to be, contrary to the
cliched reply above, laughed at rather than pitied.
There is no philosophical argument to justify breeding other than
survival of the species. It is an amoral subject solidly rooted in the
realm of biology. If you have a logical, not emotional, argument to
present by all means knock yourself out.
Originally posted by SeitseWell, one thing, you wouldn't be here to complain about them if we had not had kids. So you are trying to argue yourself out of existence.
They're a nuisance, honestly. They crap and pee
themselves all over, they whine and shout and cry,
they are little Napoleons capable of the greatest
cruelty, and, besides a financial drain, they are frankly
annoying. Plus, they really, really bother the rest of us
in cafés, airplanes, malls, cinemas, etc.
Moreover, let's be honest: statistically spe ...[text shortened]... ting that,
indeed, you are qualified to create, raise and deliver to the
world a worthy human.
Originally posted by sonhouseAnd millions before me, as will be after me.
Well, one thing, you wouldn't be here to complain about them if we had not had kids. So you are trying to argue yourself out of existence.
It's called philosophy. Existence's great questions.
Granted, it's neither the Duck Family nor a Steelers match, but
you should try it sometimes.
Originally posted by SeitseWhy do I have kids?
They're a nuisance, honestly. They crap and pee
themselves all over, they whine and shout and cry,
they are little Napoleons capable of the greatest
cruelty, and, besides a financial drain, they are frankly
annoying. Plus, they really, really bother the rest of us
in cafés, airplanes, malls, cinemas, etc.
Moreover, let's be honest: statistically spe ...[text shortened]... ting that,
indeed, you are qualified to create, raise and deliver to the
world a worthy human.
Ever since I heard a scientist say that global warming would cause Washington DC to be submerged under water I've been having as many carbon footprints possible, along with eating a can of baked beans everyday and driving an SUV religiously, even if it means driving across the street instead of walking.
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Originally posted by SeitseWell my kids have successes. One has Ma in music, teaching university level now in Brazil, long story.
How are you so sure of that?
Another has Ma in social work and is close to top dog in Lehigh County here in Pennsylvania.
I'd say that was success. They got their degrees the hard way, they worked for them, Josh slung hamburgers for years, Heather taught on the side and did housework for a couple of years, still ended up with a huge student loan bill.
Student loans, the scourge of the 21st century.
Originally posted by sonhouseThanks, sonhouse.......
Well my kids have successes. One has Ma in music, teaching university level now in Brazil, long story.
Another has Ma in social work and is close to top dog in Lehigh County here in Pennsylvania.
I'd say that was success. They got their degrees the hard way, they worked for them, Josh slung hamburgers for years, Heather taught on the side and did house ...[text shortened]... still ended up with a huge student loan bill.
Student loans, the scourge of the 21st century.
Originally posted by sonhouseI did not ask about their worldly, money-bought achievements.
Well my kids have successes. One has Ma in music, teaching university level now in Brazil, long story.
Another has Ma in social work and is close to top dog in Lehigh County here in Pennsylvania.
I'd say that was success. They got their degrees the hard way, they worked for them, Josh slung hamburgers for years, Heather taught on the side and did house ...[text shortened]... still ended up with a huge student loan bill.
Student loans, the scourge of the 21st century.
The question is: are they happy and fulfilled? And, moreover, if they
are, are those feelings due to you, or despite of you?
