1. Standard memberSeitse
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    14 Jan '16 08:22
    Originally posted by FreakyKBH
    it appears the labor of my love has been met with measures of success
    How are you so sure of that?
  2. Mar-a-Lago
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    14 Jan '16 09:33
    Originally posted by HandyAndy
    Who'd support us in our old age?
    Thousands of care homes in the UK are stuffed to the gunnels with old folks.
    Their kids are wringing their hands hoping they die before all their inheritance is gone.
    The ones with no money are a burden on the taxpayer.
  3. Standard memberGrampy Bobby
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    14 Jan '16 09:551 edit
    Originally posted by Seitse
    I was an accident. They did share my point of view.

    Otherwise, your question makes no sense: unborn, I'd not be me, hence
    incapable of pondering these matters a existence is the condition for
    any epistemological pursuit.
    Self deception leads to self justification which eventuates in total self absorption, an unfortunate status in which an individual becomes hypersensitive to his/her own wishes and needs and insensitive to the wishes and needs of other people. Human beings in this status are far more to be pitied than scorned.

    Edit: Did their parents also share your "point of view"?
  4. Standard memberSeitse
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    14 Jan '16 10:32
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    Self deception leads to self justification which eventuates in total self absorption, an unfortunate status in which an individual becomes hypersensitive to his/her own wishes and needs and insensitive to the wishes and needs of other people. Human beings in this status are far more to be pitied than scorned.

    Edit: Did their parents also share your "point of view"?
    I don't think you understand the complexity of the philosophical
    question you, by accident, posited --and the response you got in
    the same vein. Sophisms may sound witty but are not correct. And
    emotional answers to serious questions are to be, contrary to the
    cliched reply above, laughed at rather than pitied.

    There is no philosophical argument to justify breeding other than
    survival of the species. It is an amoral subject solidly rooted in the
    realm of biology. If you have a logical, not emotional, argument to
    present by all means knock yourself out.
  5. Subscribersonhouse
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    14 Jan '16 10:48
    Originally posted by Seitse
    They're a nuisance, honestly. They crap and pee
    themselves all over, they whine and shout and cry,
    they are little Napoleons capable of the greatest
    cruelty, and, besides a financial drain, they are frankly
    annoying. Plus, they really, really bother the rest of us
    in cafés, airplanes, malls, cinemas, etc.

    Moreover, let's be honest: statistically spe ...[text shortened]... ting that,
    indeed, you are qualified to create, raise and deliver to the
    world a worthy human.
    Well, one thing, you wouldn't be here to complain about them if we had not had kids. So you are trying to argue yourself out of existence.
  6. Mar-a-Lago
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    14 Jan '16 11:08
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Well, one thing, you wouldn't be here to complain about them if we had not had kids. So you are trying to argue yourself out of existence.
    Are you his father ?
  7. Standard memberSeitse
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    14 Jan '16 13:06
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Well, one thing, you wouldn't be here to complain about them if we had not had kids. So you are trying to argue yourself out of existence.
    And millions before me, as will be after me.

    It's called philosophy. Existence's great questions.

    Granted, it's neither the Duck Family nor a Steelers match, but
    you should try it sometimes.
  8. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    14 Jan '16 13:10
    I have had children purely for my own enjoyment.
    There is no other rational argument.
    It was an unethical, immoral, unecological decision.
    But I did it. (With a little help)

    I think more than two is unjustified!!
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    14 Jan '16 13:18
    Originally posted by Seitse
    They're a nuisance, honestly. They crap and pee
    themselves all over, they whine and shout and cry,
    they are little Napoleons capable of the greatest
    cruelty, and, besides a financial drain, they are frankly
    annoying. Plus, they really, really bother the rest of us
    in cafés, airplanes, malls, cinemas, etc.

    Moreover, let's be honest: statistically spe ...[text shortened]... ting that,
    indeed, you are qualified to create, raise and deliver to the
    world a worthy human.
    Why do I have kids?

    Ever since I heard a scientist say that global warming would cause Washington DC to be submerged under water I've been having as many carbon footprints possible, along with eating a can of baked beans everyday and driving an SUV religiously, even if it means driving across the street instead of walking.
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    14 Jan '16 13:20
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    I have had children purely for my own enjoyment.
    I (we) chose not to have kids for our own enjoyment.
  11. Standard memberSeitse
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    14 Jan '16 13:451 edit
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    I have had children purely for my own enjoyment.
    So did Michael Jackson.

    (allegedly)
  12. Subscribersonhouse
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    14 Jan '16 14:391 edit
    Originally posted by Seitse
    How are you so sure of that?
    Well my kids have successes. One has Ma in music, teaching university level now in Brazil, long story.
    Another has Ma in social work and is close to top dog in Lehigh County here in Pennsylvania.

    I'd say that was success. They got their degrees the hard way, they worked for them, Josh slung hamburgers for years, Heather taught on the side and did housework for a couple of years, still ended up with a huge student loan bill.
    Student loans, the scourge of the 21st century.
  13. Standard memberGrampy Bobby
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    14 Jan '16 16:26
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Well my kids have successes. One has Ma in music, teaching university level now in Brazil, long story.
    Another has Ma in social work and is close to top dog in Lehigh County here in Pennsylvania.

    I'd say that was success. They got their degrees the hard way, they worked for them, Josh slung hamburgers for years, Heather taught on the side and did house ...[text shortened]... still ended up with a huge student loan bill.
    Student loans, the scourge of the 21st century.
    Thanks, sonhouse.......
  14. Standard memberSeitse
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    14 Jan '16 16:45
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Well my kids have successes. One has Ma in music, teaching university level now in Brazil, long story.
    Another has Ma in social work and is close to top dog in Lehigh County here in Pennsylvania.

    I'd say that was success. They got their degrees the hard way, they worked for them, Josh slung hamburgers for years, Heather taught on the side and did house ...[text shortened]... still ended up with a huge student loan bill.
    Student loans, the scourge of the 21st century.
    I did not ask about their worldly, money-bought achievements.

    The question is: are they happy and fulfilled? And, moreover, if they
    are, are those feelings due to you, or despite of you?
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    14 Jan '16 19:061 edit

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