Soccer Penalty Kicks

Originally posted by Coconut
Does anyone else think it's wrong that the goalie has to just pick a side and dive that direction? Can't things be changed to give him a chance to use skill? Can one just kick that ball straight and expect the goalkeeper to dive out of the way?

Have you considered the dimensions?
As far as I remember the area that must be covered by the goalkeeper is 7 meters wide x 3 meters high (not sure about this one, may be more, say 3.2 m).
A shot from 12 m (a penalty), if well executed is mortal for the goalkeeper. Look for the reglamentary measures, I'm not very sure I'm right here.
But under this (or similar) conditions, a well kicked penalty is a goal for sure. No goalkeeper can stop it.

Originally posted by CrazyLilTing
Have you considered the dimensions?
As far as I remember the area that must be covered by the goalkeeper is 7 meters wide x 3 meters high (not sure about this one, may be more, say 3.2 m).
A shot from 12 m (a penalty), if well executed is mortal for the goalkeeper. Look for the reglamentary measures, I'm not very sure I'm right here.
But under this (or similar) conditions, a well kicked penalty is a goal for sure. No goalkeeper can stop it.

You might want to bring this to the attention of the English team.

Originally posted by Turanthor

The only goalie I even saw stop a single PK was Ricardo? from Portugal against England.

Kawaguchi saved a great one in Japan's game against Croatia.

Originally posted by 747skyjock
Kawaguchi saved a great one in Japan's game against Croatia.

We need to do away with games being decided on penalty kicks and the players will just have to do with playing until someone scores.The penalty shootout is no way for a team to lose ,its just a luck thing in the end.

Originally posted by boarman
We need to do away with games being decided on penalty kicks and the players will just have to do with playing until someone scores.The penalty shootout is no way for a team to lose ,its just a luck thing in the end.

Not this stupid idea again. 😞
There's no way a game can be decided on playing until someone scores! It will cause so many injuries and will be really boring when it goes on for more than 5minutes! Penalties, although not a great way to end a match, is the only thing that is fair for both teams.

Originally posted by expressiveoutburst
Not this stupid idea again. 😞
There's no way a game can be decided on playing until someone scores! It will cause so many injuries and will be really boring when it goes on for more than 5minutes! Penalties, although not a great way to end a match, is the only thing that is fair for both teams.

I can't see how it will cause more injuries and it would bring a new dimension into the game (fitness).
One other way they could decide it would be for each team to drop off a player each 5 minutes,that might make it a more spectacle game for you.

Originally posted by CrazyLilTing
Have you considered the dimensions?
As far as I remember the area that must be covered by the goalkeeper is 7 meters wide x 3 meters high (not sure about this one, may be more, say 3.2 m).
A shot from 12 m (a penalty), if well executed is mortal for the goalkeeper. Look for the reglamentary measures, I'm not very sure I'm right here.
But under this (or similar) conditions, a well kicked penalty is a goal for sure. No goalkeeper can stop it.

8ft (2.44m) high and 24ft (7.32m) wide, I think.

Originally posted by boarman
I can't see how it will cause more injuries and it would bring a new dimension into the game (fitness).
One other way they could decide it would be for each team to drop off a player each 5 minutes,that might make it a more spectacle game for you.

That's comical that is. The players are already at high fitness level's so that is not a problem for the players. The fact that the muscle's will start to cramp and also tired legs can make tired and clumsy challenge's leading to more injuries.
What happen's if it goes on for so long that there are only the keepers left on the pitch? Do you think the fans will stay to watch that? lol

Originally posted by expressiveoutburst
That's comical that is. The players are already at high fitness level's so that is not a problem for the players. The fact that the muscle's will start to cramp and also tired legs can make tired and clumsy challenge's leading to more injuries.
What happen's if it goes on for so long that there are only the keepers left on the pitch? Do you think the fans will stay to watch that? lol

I dont know if you have played to much soccer but i have played my fair share and i am also still playing rugby union and the more fitter you are the less likely you will be injured.
I really can not see it going down to two keepers as the teams with the better players should prevail. The faster players would remain and so on.
I also play in a touch football comp where this rule is applied and it works quite well.
Offer some ways to overcome this without the penalty kick option.

Originally posted by boarman
We need to do away with games being decided on penalty kicks and the players will just have to do with playing until someone scores.The penalty shootout is no way for a team to lose ,its just a luck thing in the end.

Actually Kawaguchi's save was in the normal 90 minutes, not a shoot-out.

Originally posted by boarman
I dont know if you have played to much soccer but i have played my fair share and i am also still playing rugby union and the more fitter you are the less likely you will be injured.
I really can not see it going down to two keepers as the teams with the better players should prevail. The faster players would remain and so on.
I also play in a touch footba ...[text shortened]... lied and it works quite well.
Offer some ways to overcome this without the penalty kick option.

Erm. Removing the goalkeepers would certainly make the game more entertaining. 😛

Originally posted by boarman
I dont know if you have played to much soccer but i have played my fair share and i am also still playing rugby union and the more fitter you are the less likely you will be injured.
I really can not see it going down to two keepers as the teams with the better players should prevail. The faster players would remain and so on.
I also play in a touch footba ...[text shortened]... lied and it works quite well.
Offer some ways to overcome this without the penalty kick option.

I played football from aged 10 till now so I do know abit about it. I see you didn't reply to my bit about tired legs making clumsy challenges, as you probably know I'm right. Your idea would never be implimented because it would not give any more excitement to the viewers or add anything to the game, it would simply take it away.

Originally posted by Coconut
They all seem to think that there is no time to react to a kick, and just choose one way or the other to throw their bodies.

I was a stand in goalkeeper for penalty kicks for my local team.

You have to move as the ball is being kicked, as otherwise you haven't a chance. The trick is to look at the run-up and the shape of the foot. If you can see the heel as he kicks, then it is going to my left. If you can't see the heel, then it is going central or right, you have to try to figure out by the angle of the swing of the leg. Its not difficult if the penalty taker isn't great. The problem is that the good takers know that this is the only way to figure out a side, and they show you the heel, and then at the very last second, change their foot angle.

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Originally posted by boarman
One other way they could decide it would be for each team to drop off a player each 5 minutes,that might make it a more spectacle game for you.

I think that if a chess game ends in a drawn position, pieces should be randomly added until a decisive outcome has been reached.

Spectacular.

D