I heard on the radio yesterday that an individual on death row has had his execution by lethal injection delayed. He claims in his lawsuit that because he is overweight and diabetic he could possibly suffer undue pain at his execution. He was a religious cult leader who murdered 4 family members, and the judge upheld his stay of execution so he could file the suit. This upsets me because I was the supervisor of the man he murdered (along with his wife and three pre-teen daughters.) He and his associates lead the girls to the barn, shot them and dumped them into a large hole. Then they took the girl’s mother out to the barn, stood her at the hole and executed her. After using a stun gun on the man, they did they same thing to him. The reason for the murders was that the husband wasn’t too keen on the cult and was only involved because of his wife. The guy who was murdered was a very mild-mannered and pleasant person who I always enjoyed talking to, and was a very willing worker. Imagine the pain & terror these people felt: having a stun gun used on them, watching their sisters murdered before their eyes, seeing your wife & kids lying dead in a hole. Am I missing something in the judge’s decision? Is there anything wrong with the guy suffering a little pain and discomfort at his own execution?
This stuff only seems to happen in America and in the movies or maybe I turn off to it when I read about these things.
Yeah, the prick doesnt deserve to breath the air we all share, why lethal injection too?? I think a more suitable death is required.
Is it the judge who chooses, I know over there all states aren't the same, but the sentance should all be the same. Cold blooded murder should result in a slow painful death.
Originally posted by masscatIt would be cruel punishment to force the guy to undergo pain. If you are OK with breaking established laws on that front then sure go right ahead and kill him painfully. But if you want to actually earn your title as Land of the Free you might actually want to start following basic human rights.
I heard on the radio yesterday that an individual on death row has had his execution by lethal injection delayed. He claims in his lawsuit that because he is overweight and diabetic he could possibly suffer undue pain at his execution. He was a religious cult leader who murdered 4 family members, and the judge upheld his stay of execution so he could file ...[text shortened]... s there anything wrong with the guy suffering a little pain and discomfort at his own execution?
Originally posted by masscatWhat an mind-numbing senseless loss. My deepest sympathies to you and your co-workers for the loss of your employee and friend. Neither he nor his family can be replaced, and I weep with you.
I heard on the radio yesterday that an individual on death row has had his execution by lethal injection delayed. He claims in his lawsuit that because he is overweight and diabetic he could possibly suffer undue pain at his execution. He was a religious cult leader who murdered 4 family members, and the judge upheld his stay of execution so he could file ...[text shortened]... s there anything wrong with the guy suffering a little pain and discomfort at his own execution?
With respect to lethal injection, one of the doses given the convicted is a sedative which renders him painless. The family's attorney needs to argue on these grounds in order for justice to be served. This is not about retribution, but justice. What the scum deserves is torture; what lethal injection provides is deliverance. But despite his inhumanity, justice demands that he be freed from this life's continuing troubles to meet his Maker and receive his true judgment.
May that be sooner than later, for the sake of the aggrieved.
Originally posted by FreakyKBHYes, let's torture the criminals, that's surely not against the 8th Amendment of the Constitution.
With respect to lethal injection, one of the doses given the convicted is a sedative which renders him painless. The family's attorney needs to argue on these grounds in order for justice to be served. This is not about retribution, but justice. What the scum deserves is torture; what lethal injection provides is deliverance. But despite his inhumani ...[text shortened]... be freed from this life's continuing troubles to meet his Maker and receive his true judgment.
EDIT: Here's an interesting study done on the levels of painkiller and sedative in the system of execution victims.
http://www.atypicaljoe.com/archives/LancetInadAnesth.pdf
Originally posted by XanthosNZYou're obviously unclear of the definition of torture, which necessarily requires intent. Putting someone essentially to sleep prior to causing their built-in defenses to collapse is not torture; it is a humane method of producing a just sentence.
Yes, let's torture the criminals, that's surely not against the 8th Amendment of the Constitution.
EDIT: Here's an interesting study done on the levels of painkiller and sedative in the system of execution victims.
http://www.atypicaljoe.com/archives/LancetInadAnesth.pdf
Keeping a victim alive via a stun gun for the purpose of forcing them to see their brutalized dead family (my apologies, masscat) prior to killing them is torture. That you are unable to discern the difference between these two actions terminates this conversation.
Originally posted by mlpriorInteresting thread, all... Some real debate! 😕 I'm very "liberal" by natural inclination...
I am partial to the old time Chain Gang.
Make him work his arse off, until he dies.
Probably wouldn't be a lot of work in his case, and it may be painful. Who cares!
Death is too kind for this kind of person.
😀 On the other hand, for crimes like these, I think torture for all eternity seems appropriate.
I believe Christians call it Hell 😲 And Americans call it living in L.A. waiting for a break....
Why does he not just claim that he is going to suffer undue embarassment at his execution because he will soil and deficate on himself at the moment of death? Certainly the uneeded embarassment of this will cause issues.
Or why not claim that the lethal injection will cause an undue shortfall to his life expectancy and this goes against his religion? After all, in his religion, his life must end naturally....
Its crap. Whether it is the legal loop hole of a law or not, he is working the system and it should be stopped.
