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Originally posted by catfoodtim


I'll try again, ignoring your adherence to stereotypes and useless goading.

Q. Whats so different about the Irish football team and managers compared to the 8,896 who applied for an Irish passport this year. Why is one a plastic paddy and the other not? So you don't agree there's some double standards at play?
You show yourself up as you jump to conclusions, like that other racist here, Philodor.

:'(

These are words that hurt.

Q. Whats so different about the Irish football team and managers compared to the 8,896 who applied for an Irish passport this year. Why is one a plastic paddy and the other not? So you don't agree there's some double standards at play?

That's a fallacious argument, as noone suggested that those seeking the passport were Plastic Paddies. I suggested that YOU were a Plastic Paddy Planter, not them.

My point was about how people travelling from your fair land are now wishing to conceal their nationality. Like you did here. I think you are a tw@t, true, but not them. Indeed, if they were off to Morocco or Afghanistan, I would think it quite sensible. There's no double standard there. Nationality is a choice, anyway, once one has a mixed background. If anyone wants to declare themselves Irish, we're generally pretty happy about it. But that's just another example of how you don't understand the people of the country you inhabit.

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
While I'm waiting for the real fun to start, would you mind clarifying a few Irish terms for me? The first is spalpeen. How do you use it?
I will, if you tell me where you read it. Honestly, I've only come across that word in literature, as it's not used very much around Dublin.

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Originally posted by sjeg
Good man, Trev. Don't mind C.Face there. He's clearly got issues.

What say you to sneaking a goal in Paris, Parc des Princes? Wouldn't it be amazing?

My personal experience has been that everyone I know would love to see Derry win. But then I must be wrong, as it contradicts C.-F.'s theory.
it would be fantastic, i know PSG left a few players out of the first game but they really didn't look any better than derry, thought rte should have shown the match though anythings better than listening to jacky fullerton. everyone that i have talked to in ireland wants them to win as well but they should its good coverage for the eircom league.

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Originally posted by sjeg
I will, if you tell me where you read it. Honestly, I've only come across that word in literature, as it's not used very much around Dublin.
Pity. Seems a useful word:

Spal·peen n. [Ir. spailpin , fr. spailp a beau, pride, self-conceit.] A scamp; an Irish term for a good-for-nothing fellow.

The other word that attracted me was gombeen man. Got any of those still? Are they the same as pikeys?

Good heavens, look where the gombeen man has led me: Heaney & Larkin! http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0403/is_n4_v43/ai_20614543

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Pity. Seems a useful word:

Spal·peen n. [Ir. spailpin , fr. spailp a beau, pride, self-conceit.] A scamp; an Irish term for a good-for-nothing fellow.

The other word that attracted me was gombeen man. Got any of those still? Are they the same as pikeys?
Well, if you knew, why ask?

I was going to venture 'snotty-nosed brat'. It's an anglicisation of Munster Gaelic. I'm not sure about the root, but it's got a diminutive suffix on the end. If you give me an while I can ask a friend who specialises in this subject. I'd read it in Synge, I'm certain.

Usage:

'Ah sure would you go 'way outta dat, you spalpeen, 'fore you'd be feelin' the hard side o' me hurley'.

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Originally posted by catfoodtim
[bRay Houghton = Irish Hero
8,896 people born in the UK applying for an Irish passport = Plastic Paddies
[/b]
Greg Rusedski = english hero?
Lennox Lewis = english hero?
owen hargreves = english hero?

and countless others, see what i mean?

most of them will be from n. ireland. if you're born in the island of ireland you're entitled to an irish passport, many n. irish people with a british passport grow up and want to be known as irish.

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Originally posted by sjeg
Well, if you knew, why ask?

I was going to venture 'snotty-nosed brat'. It's an anglicisation of Munster Gaelic. I'm not sure about the root, but it's got a diminutive suffix on the end. If you give me an while I can ask a friend who specialises in this subject. I'd read it in Synge, I'm certain.

Usage:

'Ah sure would you go 'way outta dat, you spalpeen, 'fore you'd be feelin' the hard side o' me hurley'.
I didn't, I had a Google while I was waiting. It's always better to hear it from real people though (and your example sentence is a winner). Yes, I think I came across it in some book on the Irish Renaissance, Synge, Yeats and the rest.

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Originally posted by trevor33
it would be fantastic, i know PSG left a few players out of the first game but they really didn't look any better than derry, thought rte should have shown the match though anythings better than listening to jacky fullerton. everyone that i have talked to in ireland wants them to win as well but they should its good coverage for the eircom league.
Which Channel did I watch it on, then? TV3 or Settanta. Thought it was on RTÉ...

Just goes to show you, though. You know we'll support you to the hilt. 26 + 6 = 1, as a wise fellow once said.

Won't be long, now.

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Originally posted by catfoodtim
As most Irish isn't in The Pale.
Well done. Were you trying to insult me? That's sad.

Yes, I speak English at home. Is that a surprise?