Originally posted by Bosse de NageNo- the gombeen men were the shopkeeper class that Yeats despised. Filthy money-grabbing hands always in the till. Incredibly vulgar (although Yeats was a bit of an old snob, you understand).
Pity. Seems a useful word:
Spal·peen n. [Ir. spailpin , fr. spailp a beau, pride, self-conceit.] A scamp; an Irish term for a good-for-nothing fellow.
The other word that attracted me was gombeen man. Got any of those still? Are they the same as pikeys?
Good heavens, look where the gombeen man has led me: Heaney & Larkin! http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0403/is_n4_v43/ai_20614543
Often confused thesedays, people think it means eejit all too often.
Better that I could put it:
'A Gombeen Man is a Hiberno-English term used in Ireland for a shady, small-time "wheeler-dealer" or businessman who is always looking to make a quick profit, often at someone else's expense or through the acceptance of bribes. Its origin is the Irish word 'gaimbin', meaning "usury". The term referred originally to a money-lender and became associated with those shopkeepers and merchants who exploited the starving during the Irish Famine by selling much-needed food and goods on credit at ruinous interest rates.'
Originally posted by trevor33Wayne the Tinker Rooney?
Greg Rusedski = english hero?
Lennox Lewis = english hero?
owen hargreves = english hero?
and countless others, see what i mean?
most of them will be from n. ireland. if you're born in the island of ireland you're entitled to an irish passport, many n. irish people with a british passport grow up and want to be known as irish.
I didn't hear anyone complain about his origins, and he's 100% Irish itinerant stock. No saxon in there at all. He even looks like a Mr.Potato Head.
And Rooooooo-neeeey they chant.
Originally posted by sjegit was on bbc2 ni but eurosport was also showing it, it might have been on tv3 our tv3 picture isn't great up here so i rarely watch it. just watch sports tonight on it really.
Which Channel did I watch it on, then? TV3 or Settanta. Thought it was on RTÉ...
Just goes to show you, though. You know we'll support you to the hilt. 26 + 6 = 1, as a wise fellow once said.
Won't be long, now.
i hope so but i really can't see it happening in my lifetime, not from talking to the people up here - they still have their flags up from the 12th. 😠
Originally posted by catfoodtimYou miss the point, and frankly bore me. Admit you are a fraud, and go and lie down.
[b]My point was about how people travelling from your fair land are now wishing to conceal their nationality. Like you did here.
Those 216 people from Antartica that play on RHP are all really from Antartica. And the 72 from Vatican City who grace our presence are a credit to their country. VladamirNo1 does indeed have a vife in his willage.
R ...[text shortened]... ing the Irish flag on a chess website?
I think you are a tw@t, true
Like I care.[/b]
'Like I care?'
What are you, 16? Watching too much of the O.C.. A bleeding sasanach, ashamed of his roots, and inept at the usage of his own mother tongue.
I feel bad for you. 😳
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Behind a web of bottles, bales,
Tobacco, sugar, coffin nails
The gombeen like a spider sits,
Surfeited; and, for all his wits,
As meagre as the tally-board
On which his usuries are scored.
Joseph Campbell.
Campbell is a good Irish name. I can tell you the origins of that, if you like. It's a nice one.
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Originally posted by catfoodtimYou're a sorry old fraud. And YOU started the name-calling. I invited you for a drink, you sl@g, saying the first pint is on me- and as a student, that's a big deal.
You, like all bigots, change the subject, bore easily, and avoid direct questions. I see the same tactics with Nargaguna, Philodor and yourself. You always resort to name calling.
How am I a fraud? Read through my posts you goon, and see how much of a halfwit you really are - I'll give you a clue, try the Yorkshire Clan.
Again, I say to you you to abusing me when faced with questions you don't understand or want to answer.
Shame.
I would love to see an Englishman waving my flag, if he were doing it for the right, and not self-serving, reasons. That's why I say you are a fraud- you're not declaring a love for my country, which you seemingly despise, or an affinity with its people, whom you obviously fail to comprehend. I reckon you're disguising your Englishness on purpose so people don't give you grief. And I think that is a shame, because you should be proud of your country, and not skulking about under the green banner hoping noone will notice.
How am I a racist? You resort to the same sad tactic that any dim character will in any debate: shout out racist, nazi or whatever.
I am 50% English, English/New Zealand. Tell me again now, I'm a big racist, am I?
Could it not perchance be you have no sense of humour or any idea when someone is joking? That's the way it seems to me, anyway. You have not got a clue.
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Originally posted by catfoodtimI've never heard this expression.
People hear a northern accent and, well you know - you're telling me you've never heard the phrase 'never trust a nordy?'
Also, Irish sports are still amateur. And the GAA calender is very short, with very few top class games. I'd be interested to see if TV3 reported on the premiership matches first last Sunday. For a country of 4 million, there were 83,000 people (including me) at the game on Sunday, and another 30,000 left outside without tickets. I don't believe any of the Premiership games had that attendance ever.
The irish are intensely interested in sport, all sport. Irish league soccer games are generally sold out. This despite the fact that it is an amateur league. Most rural people would attend a gave of local football pretty much every week. Young boys who don't play football are viewed as weird. Sport is everywhere in Ireland. The fact that we enjoy watching one of the best soccer leagues in the world, which also happens to be populated with Ireland's best players doesn't mean that we want to be British.
We watch British TV, because frankly Irish TV has a tendency to be fairly rubbish and very low budget. Does the fact that you probably watch predominantly american films make you want to be american?
Frankly, I have absolutely no problem with the British. If you think that sjeg does, then stooping to his level isn't the best way to prove a point.
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Originally posted by Bosse de NageI never heard of spalpeen. Gombeen is a word I use quite a lot when I want to call a friend an idiot. I wouldn't normally postfix it with man, but it would normally be prefixed with a f in.
Pity. Seems a useful word:
Spal·peen n. [Ir. spailpin , fr. spailp a beau, pride, self-conceit.] A scamp; an Irish term for a good-for-nothing fellow.
The other word that attracted me was gombeen man. Got any of those still? Are they the same as pikeys?
Good heavens, look where the gombeen man has led me: Heaney & Larkin! http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0403/is_n4_v43/ai_20614543
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Originally posted by catfoodtimYou do realise that this is only a running joke with the culchies? In response, Jackeens are probably the most staunchly nationalist people in the country.
As most Irish isn't in The Pale.
Dublin Gaelic is much stricter than the Gaeltacht gaelic of the wesht. Gaeltacht gaelic is taught using english words, like "computer", whereas in Dublin gaelic, new words are created rather than anglicising the language.
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Originally posted by RagnorakThat sounds terrible. And I used to like Ireland. 🙁
The irish are intensely interested in sport, all sport. Irish league soccer games are generally sold out. This despite the fact that it is an amateur league. Most rural people would attend a gave of local football pretty much every week. Young boys who don't play football are viewed as weird. Sport is everywhere in Ireland.