The ethics of lying

@trev33 said
Everything can change as people grow older, values, ethics, everything. Some are natural changes and come changes by choice, someone for example can realise certain things they don’t like about themselves and aim to change that. Some changes are harder than others.

In terms of lying, I’ve found it to be a very cultural thing and what some call lying others don’t. Often lies ...[text shortened]... w it’s very rare and small things that I don’t feel the need to tell the complete truth to a person.

Will these be your wise words of wisdom for the year? 😉

-VR

@handyandy said
Please don't let this thread be yet another one about you!

Too late.

@torunn said
Too late.

You see torunn that is what I am talking about and you do it without even thinking about it!

-VR

@they said
It feels like goals and intentions change - but values and ethics don't. But maybe I have that wrong.

I love the diary reference - would someone lie in a journal? Lie to themselves? Maybe to make themselves feel better about something? I had not considered that before.

History & fact solve that I'd say 'The pages' give an insight. Not some Twonk trolling but hey, this🤷‍♂️ is the General free poo fest.

One player here has a profile statement that says: Read a Book✔

@torunn said
@HandyAndy
We all lie but for different reasons. If we can spare a person unnecessary worries by avoiding giving them the truth in a difficult situation, we would probably do so, if it didn't mean compromising consequences for somebody else. I think that would agree with good ethics.

nonmaleficence - yes I think that is right

@they said
nonmaleficence - yes I think that is right

Nonmaleficence. The principle of nonmaleficence holds that there is an obligation not to inflict harm on others. It is closely associated with the maxim primum non nocere (first do no harm).

I don't believe everyone does that though some lies are intended to inflict harm....I use Trump as my example.

-VR

@very-rusty said
Nonmaleficence. The principle of nonmaleficence holds that there is an obligation not to inflict harm on others. It is closely associated with the maxim primum non nocere (first do no harm).

I don't believe everyone does that though some lies are intended to inflict harm....I use Trump as my example.

-VR

Your best post in a month. On point. Within the conversation of the thread. Kudos my nascent friend.

I think some people rationalize lying when it spares someone else harm. I think that is what @torunn was saying and I agree.

Maybe that is what you were saying too (not sure).

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@they said
Your best post in a month. On point. Within the conversation of the thread. Kudos my nascent friend.

I think some people rationalize lying when it spares someone else harm. I think that is what @torunn was saying and I agree.

Maybe that is what you were saying too (not sure).

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It Eh not A!

Man you are slow to catch on to the lingo aren't you! 😉

We are allowed to agree to disagree on things you know! 😉

-VR

@hells-caretaker said
History & fact solve that I'd say 'The pages' give an insight. Not some Twonk trolling but hey, this🤷‍♂️ is the General free poo fest.

One player here has a profile statement that says: Read a Book✔

noted - thank you

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@they said
One of the things I think about is the ethics of lying.

Almost all ethical thought experiments will have a range of situations to consider. In this case maybe the extremes of telling a lie about one's age or weight to the Nazis are at the door and you’ve got Anne Frank hiding in the attic.

Is lying part of your ethical code, part of the ethical code you are willing to imp ...[text shortened]... ence comes into play. I think it more a matter of personal ethics, which vary based on many factors.

I think people, in some cases, can lie about themselves [and others] as a kind of assertive self-entertainment if they feel empowered or liberated by online disinhibition.

@very-rusty said
Of course Andy they are all about you or Suzie Q or goad, I know that! 😉

EDIT: I believe I'll add torunn to the list of making it about her! 😉

-VR

Thanks for the reminder that you're an insufferable ass.

@very-rusty said
You see torunn that is what I am talking about and you do it without even thinking about it!

-VR

Why do you turn everything backwards?

5 year olds do that.

@very-rusty said
It Eh not A!

Man you are slow to catch on to the lingo aren't you! 😉

We are allowed to agree to disagree on things you know! 😉

-VR

What was that you were saying about "nonmaleficence" [sic]?

@they said

Is lying part of your ethical code, part of the ethical code you are willing to impose on other people?

i'm a boy scout
i learned to lie well, at a young age
i was taught that it was wrong, but it could be right

@fmf said
I think people, in some cases, can lie about themselves [and others] as a kind of assertive self-entertainment if they feel empowered or liberated by online disinhibition.

The difference more now than ever on, that it's easier behind a 'keyboard' than going down to the pub or out for a meal🤷‍♂️ Get you (I hope) - Social media is morphing, or do I need a lie down🚬