I love this show, I've watched it since infancy. But how much longer will shows like it be allowed with stereotyped characters? I was hoping in the more recent movie adaptation Tonto would be much more articulate. You know their first meeting would have been like.
The Lone Ranger: Me John, you know where I find water. Me powerful thirsty.
Tonto: I'm sorry you're thirsty, there's a stream about 200 yards due south. I can't help but ask, is English your fourth language, or are you a bit slow?
The Lone Ranger: You speak English, and very well I might add, where did you learn it?
Tonto: Oxford
Once a few years back, my then toddler grandbaby said "Hi Tonto" to the supermarket bagger, who was obviously Native American. We watched TLR a lot, and she didn't mean any disrespect nor has she been taught that at home.
My wife, is part Native American, and looks like a full blooded Cherokee, and though I look white, I too have about 7% Mescalero ansestry. My step father was Lakota, and taught me to hunt, camp etc.
They've removed many team names. One local HS team are The Reds. It's a small farm town about 7 miles north of here. The local college had an intermural BB team of Native Americans called The Fightin Whites making fun of The Reds.
And advertising, Land O Lakes lost the Native lady, Aunt Jemima is now Pearl Milling Company, Ben is no longer our Uncle. Not saying a change wasn't needed, but I'm just surprised it didn't happen in the 1950-60s.
And many movies TV shows have negative stereotypes.
@contenchess saidThis would be a great theis for Debates.
The funny thing about stereotypes is that they are usually right 😄
I think you could say: "The funny thing about sterotypes is that they contain a grain of truth."
But most are just crutches to save thinking...
@gambrel saidIt didn't happen in the 50s-60s because all the white people didn't see anything wrong with it. /eyeroll
I love this show, I've watched it since infancy. But how much longer will shows like it be allowed with stereotyped characters? I was hoping in the more recent movie adaptation Tonto would be much more articulate. You know their first meeting would have been like.
The Lone Ranger: Me John, you know where I find water. Me powerful thirsty.
Tonto: I'm sorry you're thirsty, th ...[text shortened]... st surprised it didn't happen in the 1950-60s.
And many movies TV shows have negative stereotypes.
@gambrel saidMy sister married an Aleut, so I have some familiarity with some of the issues involved. People do need to be sensitised to micro-aggressions which have become common-places in the vernacular. That said, I am not in favour of re-writing history. A recent re-edition of Huck Finn removed the n-word--this is literary vandalism. Twain was well aware of the insidiousness of racism and he doubtless meant the n-word to invoke a cringe in people who read it. When we expunge the n-word from historical fiction, such as Huck Finn, we do a disservice to the future, for if we re-write Twain now, then our successors will be re-re-writing it again 50 or even 5 years down the road to expunge something else, and then we will have lost all connection to our past.
I love this show, I've watched it since infancy. But how much longer will shows like it be allowed with stereotyped characters? I was hoping in the more recent movie adaptation Tonto would be much more articulate. You know their first meeting would have been like.
The Lone Ranger: Me John, you know where I find water. Me powerful thirsty.
Tonto: I'm sorry you're thirsty, th ...[text shortened]... st surprised it didn't happen in the 1950-60s.
And many movies TV shows have negative stereotypes.
So, yes, let's keep old Lone Ranger episodes intact on DVDs, Blu-Ray, and Netflix, as a reminder to ourselves how un-enlightened we once were and how far we have yet to go.
@gambrel saidWhat about Flipper?? I loved Flipper. Please don't say we have to re-film Flipper, too, politically correct now.
I love this show, I've watched it since infancy. But how much longer will shows like it be allowed with stereotyped characters? I was hoping in the more recent movie adaptation Tonto would be much more articulate. You know their first meeting would have been like.
The Lone Ranger: Me John, you know where I find water. Me powerful thirsty.
Tonto: I'm sorry you're thirsty, th ...[text shortened]... st surprised it didn't happen in the 1950-60s.
And many movies TV shows have negative stereotypes.
@moonbus saidSo many of the old shows had objectionable content. Mutual of Omaha's wild Kingdom for instance basically had staged animal fights, and this stuff's being shown today.
What about Flipper?? I loved Flipper. Please don't say we have to re-film Flipper, too, politically correct now.
@suzianne saidAgreed, up to a point. I'm not so sure all white people understand today. And looking back the civil Rights movement got a full head of steam in the 50s and 60s. It would have seemed logical to me at the time to make changes then, I mean this is 70 years later.
It didn't happen in the 50s-60s because all the white people didn't see anything wrong with it. /eyeroll
@contenchess saidMany people don't know season 3 had a different actor playing the lead role. A contract dispute lead to Clayton Moore being replaced by John Hart. Moore got the part back for season 4 untill the end of the show.
"The Lone Ranger"
I've been saying that damn line in the exact same tone as the show since you started this thread.
It's stuck in my head!
Very annoying 😒