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Any one seek it yoe, i saw it on friday and it kicked serious ass!

if u do go to see it wait after the 8 minutes of credits to see a preview od the 3rd one. it looks great too.

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Jacko007 ... you can download this preview as well - if you are interested, i have a look where i got it from

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Originally posted by Jacko007
Any one seek it yoe, i saw it on friday and it kicked serious ass!

if u do go to see it wait after the 8 minutes of credits to see a preview od the 3rd one. it looks great too.

David
there are some good action sequences punctuated by a poor story - what is all that party in Zion c*ap for 20mins just after the thing got start! And I am sorry but to steal the line "but, it is your destiny" and even say it like Darth Vader is a cop out. The action sequences were good, but I just got left with the feeling of they never left the matrix full stop so its all a dream.

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At the beginning I had similar feelings - but when I rethought the story I started to think about some things - and now I believe its almost as good as part one.

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Originally posted by schweigi
At the beginning I had similar feelings - but when I rethought the story I started to think about some things - and now I believe its almost as good as part one.
DO you think they have ever left the matrix?

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Definitly not at the end ... how could neo stop the machines outside the matrix ... and his dreams indicate that maybe they never really left the matrix ... But whats it with this architect - Is he telling the truth about Neo and his predecessors??? 🙄

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Originally posted by schweigi
Definitly not at the end ... how could neo stop the machines outside the matrix ... and his dreams indicate that maybe they never really left the matrix ... But whats it with this architect - Is he telling the truth about Neo and his predecessors??? 🙄
I was kind of thinking that Neo is not human, that he is a program himself. Why do we believe the the Kentucky Chicken man anyway? I think he is supposed to sound intelligent, look destinguished and respectful just to make you believe him.

I really don't know - I thought there were a lot of holes in the plot that mean't any number of things could or should happen.

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I have been thinking the same about Neo - and still do ...

For the mentioned holes - I believe they didn't want to solve everything, because they want us to go to the cinema in November to see the conclusion in Matrix Revolution.

By the way - have you seen Donnie Darko? If yes - Did you like it?

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I haven't seen it yet...
Damn, why did I read this thread?

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I absolutely loved the first Matrix film.
But the second one just left me feeling let down.
The first one was perfect - well scripted, good action, well paced. A neat little package of a film.
The second one seemed like it was the first draft and needed serious editing of the script to prevent it from being sprawling and directionless.
And after the first 20-30 minutes I was nearly asleep. The stupid dancing to drums in a cave scene reminded me of Indiana Jones for some reason. And Morpheus' speech was lame and cheesy!

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True ... the first 30 min were very disappointing ... but the rest was quite good

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I guess the problem is that the first was just so original, it was completely new no one had seen anything like it before. Another problem I found with the second was the lack of connection with characters or development. The first was all about Neo's trip down the rabbit hole and you wanted to see how far it went. All of that sort of subtle reference was lost and it went far more 'all action'. The film has also lost that air of mystery that the first had with "What is the matrix".

The first followed a very small cast with few main characters, in the second they unindated you with needless extra's (much like X-men2 but to a larger degree). Although, I can understand some additions, The new operator for instance was great especially at the end "I can't take this shit no more".

I also felt that Morpheus was a little left out, he seems to have lost his role as the teacher and leader, now he just seemed like Neo's henchman needing saving. Maybe this is because Neo lost his green inexperienced air from the first, shown best in the roof jumping scene. Or because he didn't really do anything monumentous like the kung fu scene from the first, or the part where he sacrifices him self for Neo.

Another thing was the special effects. Although amazing, none of it was really new, I felt like I'd seen it before. It was still impressive though the martial arts scenes really did seem to follow the films, you could tell that Neo/Keanu was somewhat unpractised in the first but he obviously put a lot of effort into the second and that shows.

One of the worst parts of the film though was the sex scene between Neo and Trinity, yes, they needed some dispay of the love between the two but I feel they took it too far and carried it on to long.

Don't get me wrong its still an amazing film I just feel it doesn't have that sense of awe about it the first had. Believe me I remember the awe I had after that, I must have walked around in a daze for the rest of the day. and although I was impressed it kind of wore off and I was left comparing it to the first. So, it was good but not as good as the first.

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I just got back. It was impressive in that it was an impressive display of silliness. But social protocols dictated...

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holes? what holes?
we shall find out if neo is still in the matrix in part3.
it was a great film, and many of you seem (jimmi included) to be complaining that its moved on from the original.

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the scene with Neo and all of the Mr. smith agents apparently had more fighting in it that the whole of the 1st movie.

I understand what you mean about the gaps and stuff but if u have such a good film as the 1st one it is hard to make the second better.

David

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