Originally posted by slimjim1) I'm a permanent resident, have lived here since 1980. That's 26 years.
No I'm just one of those Americans who get tired of some alien from another country bashing my country and its leaders. I know you like the mighty dollar but, if George displeases you so much go back and earn the Aussie dollar.
2) You should get out more. Not only does most of America "dislike George", but the vast majority in every country in the world does also (with a very few exceptions, one of which happens to be Australia). There are many many reasons for that, which you might look into sometime, not the least of which include Kyoto accords, invading sovereign countries, Haliburton ... the list is almost endless.
Originally posted by clive59Why aren't you a citizen then. Just like I said. The love of the dollar. I'm going to tell you like I tell a US citizen who doesn't vote. If you don't vote you have no reason to complain. George Bush has pissed me off more times than I can count so I don't need some Aussie with a Green card to tell me about it. Get out more? Maybe you read my profile and see that I get around quite a bit. I don't care if the rest of the world dislikes the US. They've hated the US for years so its nothing new. Kyoto accords? You better get on China and India's case also. Did Australia sign the accord? If I was a legal resident in Australia I'm pretty sure my bashing of the country and Prime Minister wouldn't go to good with some Aussie blokes. I'd probably be told to get the F**k out of Australia if I didn't like it. Haliburton? It's a fine company. Invading sovreign countries. I seem to remember Australia sent a token force into Iraq with the US forces. I'm forever grateful for that because I had many experiances training with the Australian Army when I was in during our many joint exercises. After reading some of these posts on this forum I'm beginning to wonder if thats the only place in Australia with people with any cajones is in the Australian Army.
1) I'm a permanent resident, have lived here since 1980. That's 26 years.
2) You should get out more. Not only does most of America "dislike George", but the vast majority in every country in the world does also (with a very few exceptions, one of which happens to be Australia). There are many many reasons for that, which you might look into sometime, not ...[text shortened]... lude Kyoto accords, invading sovereign countries, Haliburton ... the list is almost endless.
Originally posted by slimjimcare to explain how "the love of the dollar" influences whether or not I shoose to be a citizen of this country?
Why aren't you a citizen then. Just like I said. The love of the dollar. I'm going to tell you like I tell a US citizen who doesn't vote. If you don't vote you have no reason to complain. George Bush has pissed me off more times than I can count so I don't need some Aussie with a Green card to tell me about it. Get out more? Maybe you read my profile and see ...[text shortened]... e only place in Australia with people with any cajones is in the Australian Army.
Originally posted by clive59Well you've been here for over 25 years and you haven't become a citizen so it must be the money. Like those Americans who go to Iraq to work. It can't be because you love the country. Fence sitters like you, including Americans who don't vote is the real reason everything is messed up. You want to complain and bitch but at the same time do nothing about it. Become a citizen and vote. I'll welcome you with open arms regardless of how you vote. Until then STFU because as the saying goes you don't have a dog in this fight.
care to explain how "the love of the dollar" influences whether or not I shoose to be a citizen of this country?
Originally posted by slimjimWhile I've learned that there's very little value in 'discussing' with those who "lean to the Conservative", you should know that fence sitting is not where I'm at.
Well you've been here for over 25 years and you haven't become a citizen so it must be the money. Like those Americans who go to Iraq to work. It can't be because you love the country. Fence sitters like you, including Americans who don't vote is the real reason everything is messed up. You want to complain and bitch but at the same time do nothing about it. ...[text shortened]... w you vote. Until then STFU because as the saying goes you don't have a dog in this fight.
In 2003, I became hugely concerned where this country was going under the Bush administration. This was the first time since 1978 that I had been involved in politics.
I watched every "Harkin from the Heartland" town hall (which featured every Democratic contender, even the radicals such as Al Sharpton) to determine who was most likely able to get rid of the criminals in the White House. I decided that in order, that was Dean, then Edwards, then some distance back, Kerry.
I then signed up with the Dean campaign. I was very involved in Dr. Dean's campaign stop in Dallas that year, and in fact was the 'official' still photographer. I traveled with the campaign to Iowa to knock on doors soliciting support for Dr Dean in the caucus there (it's not a primary). I took vacation days and slept on the floor of other campaigner's houses to do this.
When Dean flamed out, I threw my support to the Democratic nominee. I contributed dollars and I contributed time. I went to bed in January 2004 thinking the country had turned a corner. The travesty in Ohio - shades of Florida 2000 - awaited me in the morning.
I called in sick to work.
Like many who care about this country, and about the world, I was depressed for weeks.
These days, I write letters to the editors, I have bumper stickers on my car, and I support candidates through Emily's list. I also contribute time and money to the Sierra Club, to the Carter Foundation, to Doctors without Borders, and to the Nature Conservancy.
You can rant and rave all you want. But don't under any circumstances consider me a fence sitter.
Originally posted by clive59As long as you are unable to vote you will always be a fence sitter.
While I've learned that there's very little value in 'discussing' with those who "lean to the Conservative", you should know that fence sitting is not where I'm at.
In 2003, I became hugely concerned where this country was going under the Bush administration. This was the first time since 1978 that I had been involved in politics.
I watched every "Ha ...[text shortened]... rave all you want. But don't under any circumstances consider me a fence sitter.