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Mokko, what does this mean?

To run for a seat in the House, candidates must file nomination papers bearing the signatures of at least 50 or 100 constituents (depending on the size of the electoral district). Each electoral district returns one member; the First Past the Post electoral system, under which the candidate with a plurality of votes wins, is used. To vote, one must be a citizen of Canada and at least eighteen years of age.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_House_of_Commons

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Mokko, what does this mean?

[b]To run for a seat in the House, candidates must file nomination papers bearing the signatures of at least 50 or 100 constituents (depending on the size of the electoral district). Each electoral district returns one member; the First Past the Post electoral system, under which the candidate with a plurality of votes w ...[text shortened]... nd at least eighteen years of age.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_House_of_Commons[/b]
That means absolutely nothing when it comes time to vote. Although it does look good on paper.

I never said we don't have the right to vote. Or that you don't need to be a citizen to vote.

I simply said you don't need to be a citizen to have political influence.

And that nobody in Canada votes.

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Just one more comments for the Wingnuts on this thread then I'm done.

In Texas, thanks to the Electoral College system, I could vote one million times and it would have a total effect of zero. There are a lot more effective ways to influence the world than puffing out one's chest, waving the flag, and casting a meaningless vote.

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Originally posted by clive59
Just one more comments for the Wingnuts on this thread then I'm done.

In Texas, thanks to the Electoral College system, I could vote one million times and it would have a total effect of zero. There are a lot more effective ways to influence the world than puffing out one's chest, waving the flag, and casting a meaningless vote.
Oh move your ass back to Australia. You prove my point that its all about the friggin mighty dollar.

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Originally posted by slimjim
Oh move your ass back to Australia. You prove my point that its all about the friggin mighty dollar.
There are a lot of possible reasons other than money to move to a foreign country. There are also several possible reasons why someone who does so will keep xyr old citizenship and doesn't apply for citizenship in the new country of residence (the two are often mutually exclusive). And there are a lot of ways to have political influence, voting is just one of them, and often not the most important one. By the way, here in Norway, resident aliens are allowed to vote in local elections after they have lived in the country for two years.

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Originally posted by Nordlys
There are a lot of possible reasons other than money to move to a foreign country. There are also several possible reasons why someone who does so will keep xyr old citizenship and doesn't apply for citizenship in the new country of residence (the two are often mutually exclusive). And there are a lot of ways to have political influence, voting is just one o ...[text shortened]... iens are allowed to vote in local elections after they have lived in the country for two years.
I would not oppose resident aliens the right to vote in local elections. They pay taxes also. My point is that he is here only for the dollars. If he wants to keep is Australian citizenship fine. Then he should worry about Australia and not the US.

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Originally posted by slimjim
I would not oppose resident aliens the right to vote in local elections. They pay taxes also. My point is that he is here only for the dollars. If he wants to keep is Australian citizenship fine. Then he should worry about Australia and not the US.
What evidence do you have that he's there only for the dollars? Australia is not a poor country, so money is not one of the most likely reasons for an Australian to move to the US.

If you live in a country, it's only natural to worry and care about it. I certainly care about Norway, even though I am not a Norwegian citizen, and I am critical about the system when I see it's going the wrong way.

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This thread was contributing to General Forum Suckage, but now contains a worthwhile argument. Praise Ja!

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Originally posted by royalchicken
This thread is contributing to General Forum Suckage.
Are you a General Forum citizen or are you here just for the recs?

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Originally posted by Nordlys
Are you a General Forum citizen or are you here just for the recs?
If I were just here for the recs, I'd have more of them, hopefully. Besides, I edited after reading the latest posts. I just don't see why a thread was initiated with one silly out of context quote.

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Originally posted by royalchicken
If I were just here for the recs, I'd have more of them, hopefully. Besides, I edited after reading the latest posts. I just don't see why a thread was initiated with one silly out of context quote.
Because it's the General Forum. So, do you have the General Forum citizenship, and did you vote? If not, I am afraid you have no right to criticize anything which is happening here.

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Originally posted by Nordlys
Because it's the General Forum. So, do you have the General Forum citizenship, and did you vote? If not, I am afraid you have no right to criticize anything which is happening here.
Pah, vastly more people criticise the goings-on here than voted in the VERSE COMPETITION. There are other ways to exercise political influence, like reccing me.

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Originally posted by slimjim
I would not oppose resident aliens the right to vote in local elections. They pay taxes also. My point is that he is here only for the dollars. If he wants to keep is Australian citizenship fine. Then he should worry about Australia and not the US.
You know nothing about my background and have no bsis - except ignorance and prejudice - to make your outlandish claims.

I moved here with my ex-wife as she wanted to be closer to her family including her ailing father who later died of cancer. We had two kids together who obviously both live here. Much later we got divorced and I remarried and we also have a 2 year old.

So I have 3 children and 2 extended families here.

Not that it's worth the typing, but think, if you are able, how you would feel if the situation were exactly reversed. Would you renounce your American citizenship, and become an Australian citizen? I suspect not.

When you did not, I hope - and believe - that you would not receive the same kind of vitriol from my countrymen as you apparently enjoy dispensing.

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Originally posted by clive59
You know nothing about my background and have no bsis - except ignorance and prejudice - to make your outlandish claims.

I moved here with my ex-wife as she wanted to be closer to her family including her ailing father who later died of cancer. We had two kids together who obviously both live here. Much later we got divorced and I remarried and we also h ...[text shortened]... uld not receive the same kind of vitriol from my countrymen as you apparently enjoy dispensing.
Well lets see. I live here in El Paso also because of my wifes family. No I wouldn't renounce my citizenship if I lived in Mexico. I also wouldn't lambaste the government or its leaders since I wouldn't have a say in the government since I didn't vote. I can danm sure bet that if I was in Australia and running off at the mouth downgrading the Prime Minister or the government I would have some bloke tell me to shut up Yank.

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Go sit in the corner, both of you.