Originally posted by dan182appologies Russ i see something was done...
you may well be right, however i have had the displeasure of being on the same thread as him and it did not take long before i was called such things as aselicker etc...
now i dont care if he 15 or 50 but i would guess he throughly deserves whatever maybe happening to him now...
ps - i reported the thread i mentioned earlier and not much was done, so now the witch hunt maybe as a result of annoying all and sundry
peace
daniel
daniel
Originally posted by shavixmirWhy do you feel forced and what gives you the right to reprimand?
I can't believe I feel forced, in my holiday, to come on here and reprimand you for witch-hunting a bloody teenager.
If you seriously feel that someone should be punished (should you feel so bloody arrogant and mislead), then you should take it up PRIVATELY with either the individual or with Russ.
I find the whole Blobby matter a little disturbing ...[text shortened]... really don't want other people to know! They'll punish you for it!
Applause for yourselves!
Are you feeling all "high and mighty and moral" in condemning people?
The guy cheated, openly admitted it and was rightfully punished, end of matter.
His age, or apparent age, after all you have no idea if I am a spotty 14 year or a wrinkly 140 year old, is irrelevant as he signed up to certain guidelines to allow him on the site. If he is unable to stick within these then he should not be here in the first place.
Owning up to something does not mean you should not be penalised. Break the rules you get punished and that is the lesson I hope he has learned.
If he learns that at a young age hopefully he will not do anything much more stupid when he is older that may have more far reaching consequences.
Originally posted by adramforallAs a respected member of this community, most people would agree Shav has the right to express his opinion on this. His dismay is at the way people handled Blobby's situation, not at the fact that he was banned by Russ. To use your own words, it was exactly other people's high and mighty condemning of Blobby that was the problem. Blobby broke the ToS and as such we are all agreed he deserved his ban, what he did not deserve was people's own brand of justice beyond what he recieved from Russ. A little more tolerance on these fora would not be a bad thing
Why do you feel forced and what gives you the right to reprimand?
Are you feeling all "high and mighty and moral" in condemning people?
The guy cheated, openly admitted it and was rightfully punished, end of matter.
His age, or apparent age, after all you have no idea if I am a spotty 14 year or a wrinkly 140 year old, is irrelevant as he sig ...[text shortened]... not do anything much more stupid when he is older that may have more far reaching consequences.
Originally posted by StarrmanA little more tolerance on these fora would not be a bad thing
As a respected member of this community, most people would agree Shav has the right to express his opinion on this. His dismay is at the way people handled Blobby's situation, not at the fact that he was banned by Russ. To use your own words, it was exactly other people's high and mighty condemning of Blobby that was the problem. Blobby broke the ToS and ...[text shortened]... yond what he recieved from Russ. A little more tolerance on these fora would not be a bad thing
I have no tolerance for cheating. I do not recall these types of complaints over the treatment received by Tlai1992 and JamesWoodley, two cheaters who were the same age as Blobby. In fact, Darvlay, who is now playing the martyr in this affair, was one of the most aggressive in hounding these two individuals for months. So a lot less hypocrisy on this fora would be a good thing, too
Originally posted by no1marauderI cannot comment on the JW, Tlai thing that was before my time. Blobby got his just desserts, can we not leave it now?
A little more tolerance on these fora would not be a bad thing
I have no tolerance for cheating. I do not recall these types of complaints over the treatment received by Tlai1992 and JamesWoodley, two cheaters who were the same age as Blobby. In fact, Darvlay, who is now playing the martyr in this affair, was one of the most aggressive in hound ...[text shortened]... ese two individuals for months. So a lot less hypocrisy on this fora would be a good thing, too
I have kept rather quiet on this issue, but now I do feel the need to express my opinion as someone who is only three years older than Blobby (presuming he actually was 13).
Contrary to what most people here seem to think, a 13-year old is not a little baby which needs protection. 13 is the age at which you learn by making stupid mistakes. How is he going to survive later on if he's never confronted now?
As to whether or not he should have been banned: When you sign up, it's written there black on white: You're not allowed to use engines and also something about it being legally binding and that it could result in the termination of your account. Since he clicked yes, he agreed to it and so it was perfectly legitimate to chuck him off.
As to the "witch hunt": What else was to expect of someone who behaved so badly in the forums? If you go around insulting nearly everybody you meet, you can't expect them to stick up for you later when you're in trouble! His inability to show remorse and his arrogant responses actually provoked people to say even more. I think he deserved just what he got, he was no little innocent kid-he clearly proved that in the forums.
But just to say it clearly: I do not in any way approve of the mobbing darvlay is recieving here. I know I myself would have acted differently, but on the other hand I would have rejected him had he applied to my clan. I think darvlay made the right descision by acting in the way he thought was right and not just doing what everybody else said.
Now, finally: is there any chance we could lay this issue to rest soon? Blobby is gone, and now it's only about hurling back and forth insults at each other. I personally don't need this.
PS: Shav, I hate to say this, but your very own post sounds "bloody arrogant" to use your own words. Sure, a lot of people share your opinion most of the time, but does that give you the right to reprimand other members of this site? As to "I guess the lesson you want people to learn is that owning up to making mistakes, cheating or lying is a bad thing. Keep them secret! You really don't want other people to know! They'll punish you for it! " : Life's not fair and this is just the way things go! Is the lesson you're trying to teach him "Behave however you like, nobody will harm you anyway because you're a kid"? He won't be 13 forever, and what happens then?
Originally posted by no1marauderDid either tlai or woodley ever own up and say sorry?
A little more tolerance on these fora would not be a bad thing
I have no tolerance for cheating. I do not recall these types of complaints over the treatment received by Tlai1992 and JamesWoodley, two cheaters who were the same age as Blobby. In fact, Darvlay, who is now playing the martyr in this affair, was one of the most aggressive in hound ...[text shortened]... ese two individuals for months. So a lot less hypocrisy on this fora would be a good thing, too
I've not followed the entire blobby story, but the first I saw of it was the thread where he owned up and apologized...
Hounding players who unrepentantly cheat I can understand, hounding the repentant I can't. I also happen to think it reflects badly on the people doing the hounding and thereby the site.
Having said that though, is there really any further discussion taking place? Seems to me that everybody is now just arguing about each other's treatment of the situation...
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Originally posted by kirksey957I would also like to comment, as I have noticed in the last year a trend that is common to Blobby, JamesWoodley and Tlai and I think it's symptomatic of the way RHP is structured and it's something I would like to see the site Admins take more responsibility to discourage and prevent.
I want to weigh in on this situation. Blobby got the equivalent of the death penalty for the site. He broke the rules. We know his age. What more needs to be said? I have a kid his age. In hind sight I can see where his behavior w ...[text shortened]... he needs to look at is his ban being a symptom of something else.
It's a cheap site to subscribe to (despite what some people may think) and immediately on subscribing you are able to form a clan and use the forums (plus the sister forums) to recruit for it and goad other clans and members.
The temptation to strut around in the forums, focusing intently on quickly building an "Elite Clan" and amassing a vast number of points as soon as possible to prove oneself is encouraged by the tone of the forums. Consequently, when these clans are formed and the natural chess playing skills aren't honed enough in order to score huge points quickly, some have sought to turn to engines, others vent their frustration by abusing their opponents in the forums.
Forum mods are in place / game mods are now in place but the atmosphere for behaviour that escalates to what's gone on recently with JamesWoodley and Blobby still remains and I think something fundemental will need to be implemented by the Admins if they wish to rectify it.
Originally posted by ivanhoeIgnorance is your normal state of mind, Ivanhoe. Keep up your little crusade to get me banned; it's always good for a laugh.
I have not been following the developments in this case, but I'm not surprised to find you stirring the shit again No1. I wouldn't mind seeing you banned .... for good.
To everybody else: As for the rest, I'm perfectly willing to put the matter to rest and had pretty much done so. But I will not accept thinly veiled reprimands towards me when I feel they are unwarranted and will respond accordingly. However, that being said I have no further comment on the matter.
Originally posted by shavixmirGreat post!
I can't believe I feel forced, in my holiday, to come on here and reprimand you for witch-hunting a bloody teenager.
If you seriously feel that someone should be punished (should you feel so bloody arrogant and mislead), then you should take it up PRIVATELY with either the individual or with Russ.
I find the whole Blobby matter a little disturbing ...[text shortened]... really don't want other people to know! They'll punish you for it!
Applause for yourselves!
Originally posted by no1marauderNo1: " However, that being said I have no further comment on the matter."
Ignorance is your normal state of mind, Ivanhoe. Keep up your little crusade to get me banned; it's always good for a laugh.
To everybody else: As for the rest, I'm perfectly willing to put the matter to rest and had pretty much done so. But I will not accept thinly veiled reprimands towards me when I feel they are unwarranted and will respond accordingly. However, that being said I have no further comment on the matter.
Promises, promises .......
Originally posted by kirksey957
I want to weigh in on this situation. Blobby got the equivalent of the death penalty for the site. He broke the rules. We know his age. What more needs to be said? I have a kid his age. In hind sight I can see where his behavior was escalating. Not just here but on another site. He was a little boy trying to play with the "big dogs" and I'm no ...[text shortened]... to focus on. The first thing he needs to look at is his ban being a symptom of something else.
I wouldn't want Blobby to take you as a role model. Certainly not if I observe your actions on this site and on "another site". Your words are as usual very beautiful Kirk, but I'm afraid they stink .......