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Triplicate moves resulting in a stalemate/draw

Triplicate moves resulting in a stalemate/draw

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Can someone please review http://www.redhotpawn.com/core/playchess.php?gameid=1701514

My opponent is claiming a stalemate, is it vaild?

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No. Making the same move doesn't cause a draw repeating the same position 3 times does. That hasn't occured in the game that I can see. If the claim was valid the claim draw button would work and the game would be drawn.

Also, a draw in this manner is not a stalemate, that is saved for when one side cannot move on their turn but is not in check.

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Thanks for the reply. My interpretation is that white makes 3 identical moves and black matches those moves ... is that correct

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No the same position occurs thrice in a game no matter what the moves.

For eg.Game 1532776

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Thanks arterioes, although im still a little confused ...

Can you confirm if the following is a draw
http://www.redhotpawn.com/core/playchess.php?gameid=1701514

(I am black and obviously feel like I have the game in the bag)

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Originally posted by scott273
Thanks arterioes, although im still a little confused ...

Can you confirm if the following is a draw
http://www.redhotpawn.com/core/playchess.php?gameid=1701514

(I am black and obviously feel like I have the game in the bag)
A draw can be claimed if the position of the pieces on the board appear
three times*. So, imagine that each time you move, you take a photograph
of the board. If three photographs look the same, then a draw can be claimed.
It has nothing to do with the moves being made.

It's not really appropriate for people to comment on games in progress, but
your opponent should know that if he presses the 'claim draw' button, and it
doesn't work, then he is in error about whether a draw exists or not.

Does this explanation -- the one of photographs -- make sense to you now?

Nemesio

*-this includes the repetition of the various potentials to castle and en passant,
but don't worry about that.

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Originally posted by Nemesio
A draw can be claimed if the position of the pieces on the board appear
three times*. So, imagine that each time you move, you take a photograph
of the board. If three photographs look the same, then a draw can be claimed.
It has nothing to do with the moves being made.

It's not really appropriate for people to comment on games in progress, but
you ...[text shortened]... on of the various potentials to castle and en passant,
but don't worry about that.
It is a draw only if the same position appears 3 times, taking into account en passant, castling and whose move it is.

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Nemiso, you are legend ! Thanks for your help, I understand 100% now. Cheers Scott

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Originally posted by Redmike
It is a draw only if the same position appears 3 times, taking into account en passant, castling and whose move it is.
A draw can be claimed if the position of the pieces on the board appear[s]
three times*.

*-this includes the repetition of the various potentials to castle and en passant.


Did I say differently?

Nemesio

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Originally posted by Nemesio
A draw can be claimed if the position of the pieces on the board appear[s]
three times*.

*-this includes the repetition of the various potentials to castle and en passant.


Did I say differently?

Nemesio
Just the bit about whose move it is.

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Originally posted by scott273
Can someone please review http://www.redhotpawn.com/core/playchess.php?gameid=1701514

My opponent is claiming a stalemate, is it vaild?
That's a funny game. I think you should point your opponent in the direction of chess rules.

D

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Originally posted by scott273
Nemiso, you are legend ! Thanks for your help, I understand 100% now. Cheers Scott
you are a credit to the force rookie

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Sorry to continue forum. My opponent does not accept the views of Nemesio, and if anyone can quote a reference that is not open for interpretation (illustrations?) that would be great.
The rules state:
"Third repetition of a position. If any identical position appears three times during a game, then the game can be claimed as a draw"

I interpret that rule as talking about "all" pieces on the board, being in the same position 3 times during the game (i.e 3 identical photos) equals a draw. My opponent intreprets this as if their piece is moved for example King to B3, B4, B3 that this is the third repetition of psoition and therefore a draw (and the movement of my pieces is irrelevant). Please help...

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Originally posted by scott273
Sorry to continue forum. My opponent does not accept the views of Nemesio, and if anyone can quote a reference that is not open for interpretation (illustrations?) that would be great.
The rules state:
"Third repetition of a position. If any identical position appears three times during a game, then the game can be claimed as a draw"

I interpret that r ...[text shortened]... psoition and therefore a draw (and the movement of my pieces is irrelevant). Please help...
you're right...if he can't claim a draw then it is not 3 move repetition.

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