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Throw a flag up, so we can crank on your country.

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Originally posted by PocketKings
Wonderful. However if prohibition happened again I would just have to jump of the top of a very tall building. 😛

I'm not flat out against it, I like to target shoot. Something like this makes me think is all, easy tiger.
I didn't mean to be a heavy. My apology if I came off that way.

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Guns don't kill people....people kill people.

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Originally posted by Phlabibit
How is that any different than describing Rome, or any other period of time in history. People always fall back on that.

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Come back to this thread after you've lived another 40-50 years. You'll be thinking about how old masscat was right. 😀

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Originally posted by mlprior
Guns don't kill people....people kill people.
You're right, and they don't need guns to do it with either.

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Originally posted by PocketKings
Yet another incident that makes me question the right for anyone to bear arms, the second most important principle the founding fathers believed in. This is a different day and a different age.

Sad my friends, this is very sad.
Alternatively,

This only cements my plans to use my constitutional right and purchase a firearm when I move back to the states. AND get the wife some training on how to use one safely.

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Originally posted by tmetzler
Alternatively,

This only cements my plans to use my constitutional right and purchase a firearm when I move back to the states. AND get the wife some training on how to use one safely.
Your wife will be a mail order bride from Russia

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Originally posted by Amaurote
You know, as much as this lends support to a firearm ban, my instant reaction is that I'm sick to death of spree killers and serial killers: whoever this is, he has no grandeur or worth, he's just a dull, whiny narcissist - the most boring, weak, limp-wristed reaction to adversity in life is to go out and hurt other people using a projectile weapon. If it w ...[text shortened]... ame from all the reports and chronicles, disinfect his house and pour his ashes into a sewer.
He might not even fit the discription of an average serial killer (childhood abuse, mental illness, brain injury, etc.). One of the students reported him looking around in classes like he was searching for someone. So he could've just been another bullied teen. If that's the case, it's just as sad to me that all these deaths might've been prevented if just one person had bothered to reach out to a social outcast.

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Originally posted by PocketKings
No, it was Univ. of Texas in like the 60's. I think his name was Whitman.

I agree its a crazy sentence though.
It was Charles Whitman, but today's event has more total fatalities and the assasin took his own life where Whitman was hit by a sniper police officer. Both are great tragedies though, just the same.

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Originally posted by masscat
Come back to this thread after you've lived another 40-50 years. You'll be thinking about how old masscat was right. 😀
You have to love the irony here. How many violent deaths in our history are the direct result of religion and it's zealots. And yet as soon as a tragedy happens, someone tries to hit you over the head with a Bible.

It’s laughable.

If there was really such a person as “Paul” which is possible of course – or maybe he is a compilation – no matter – he had no idea about the pressures men face in society today. He thought the world was flat and the sun revolved around the earth. He thought diseases were God’s will – not little microorganism invading your immune system. He did not know about electricity or indoor pluming. He was crapping in the town square by candlelight.

Hardly who I am going to turn to for answers to 21st century challenges.

I know – take it to the spirituality forum Spanky. Thanks will do.

Ignore this post. Forum moderator – feel free to delete.

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These shootings are shocking and horrible.
Columbine was 50 miles from my home when it happened. This latest shooting also hits close to home just by the enormity of it. The dead students are more than a stetistic, they were real kids with real families. This is tragic to say the least.

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Originally posted by mancityboy
Quite right. The following page details acts of violence (mainly shhotings) in schools around the world. Of the 63 cases mentioned, 55 are in the USA!!
Is this just a coincidence or do you think there might be an underlying problem?

http://www2.indystar.com/library/factfiles/crime/school_violence/school_shootings.html
Find this interesting and disturbing , yet no surprise..

Yes, people kill people not guns...But a lot of stupid people have guns that should not. I would prefer to meet a stupid person with a knife rather than a gun. Then i might have a chance to live...

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Originally posted by Remora91
He might not even fit the discription of an average serial killer (childhood abuse, mental illness, brain injury, etc.). One of the students reported him looking around in classes like he was searching for someone. So he could've just been another bullied teen. If that's the case, it's just as sad to me that all these deaths might've been prevented if just one person had bothered to reach out to a social outcast.
When your society thoughts as a whole are so busy being deflected on how bad other countries are (Iraq, Iran, France, etc, etc, etc, etc), and when all the funding is going on blowing the hell out of these other countries, instead of on education and social services, then once somebody starts to feel disenfranchised, he can only become more and more and more so.

It's a real pity, but until Americans realise that sometimes people need help, then it'll happen again and again and again. Especially when people (who may be annoyed with society for some reason) watch their government take their annoyance out on other countries in a violence first/dialogue second manner.

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Originally posted by mlprior
The U.S. does not have exclusive rights to this kind of event.

I'm sure it happens in other countries also.
I believe the situation is worse in Brazil and Estonia.

Canada has as many guns per head as the US but only 10% of the deaths.
The Uk had 500 gun deaths in 2006 compared wit 28,000 in the US even allowing for the 5 times population difference this difference is staggering.

The changes are needed are not more gun control but a move away from the insecure individualistic society. Japan, has the least individualistic society and the lowest gun deaths. Americans carry guns for personal security, this paradox makes events like Va Tech far more likely.

Trust your community and your community will trust you.

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Originally posted by tmetzler
Alternatively,

This only cements my plans to use my constitutional right and purchase a firearm when I move back to the states. AND get the wife some training on how to use one safely.
Good point, as usual, there are two extremely sound arguments to both sides of a gun control debate.

For some reason I think the founding fathers were hunters and liked to hunt bear, and they put the bears arms on a plaque and hung them over the mantle. Therefore, they wanted the right to bear arms.

- source of the previous joke is The Family Guy, I can't take credit for other peoples work 😉

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