David Tabb had a very good Idea.
Pull all relevant post into this thread.
I for one cannot support something before I am aware of what I am supporting we owe it to Russ, Chris & ourselves. As a community, we should discuss all things that affect us paying or not.
Keep the thread clean and respectable let anyone seeking more information on Vote 13 read it here.
Originally posted by bosintang
The other thread in 'General' kind of slunk away to a mudfest, so I'll post another idea here.
I like the vacation immunity bank idea better, because what if you are on vacation just as a new round in a tournament starts? Your games could time out before you even have a chance to make a move! As well, a quick immunity ammendment for a couple of weeks would fit the current time scheme much easier. If you start messing with the basic time controls (time-out and timebank period), people are going to have to completely readjust.
Here's another idea for the vacation immunity slot idea:
You get 3 vacation immunity slots of maximum 7 days each. As soon as you throw your vacation flag up, whether you use 2 minutes or the full 7 days, one of your slots gets used up. You can raise and drop your flag as much as you want, but if you raise your flag, drop it, then raise it again, you use up two slots (14 days). It won't take long before you use up all of your vacation time if you try to abuse it. You can't make moves or view opponents moves while your flag is up.
I picked 7 days for a reason. The whole idea of the vacation immunity is that someone might need to be away from RHP for an extended period of time, so I think forcing people to take a whole week of their time will make them think first whether they really should raise their vacation flag or not. Someone who might be away for only 2 or 3 days, or be able to make occasional moves probably won't bother raising their flag.
Originally posted by David Tebb
I really like this idea.
Being forced to use several days at a time in one chunk, would prevent players from casually dipping into their vacation allowance, as if it was just another form of timebank.
Personally, I wouldn't mind if the chunks were a bit smaller. For instance a minimum of 4 days per use of the flag might be sufficient to deter abuse.
On the other hand, it could be argued that players should be allowed to do whatever they like with their vacation allowance. If they fritter it away in order to pointlessly delay a few games at the start of the year, they'll probably be punished for it by being timed out in other games later.
It would be interesting to hear the opinions of other people who are in favour of Vacation Immunity in principle, but wish to discuss the practicalities of its implementation.
I think you should post your suggestions in the thread in the General Forum so that they get more attention.
Originally posted by Dr StrangeloveOh my god !!! You're right !!!
Question:
The 1200 are still playing here right now - do you think all of the 560 would continue playing here if this was implemented against their wishes?
Stop the vote, they'll all leave 😛
You haven't mentioned that you never got a vote yet. . .will you be leaving if the vote is carried ?
It's not seriously going to happen now, is it ?
Originally posted by Dr StrangeloveThere was a lot more uproar over active prosecution of enging users and naming them. It grew quite heated to say the least. Many vowed to leave the site if the vote passed and Russ implimented the proposed changes. Some even went as far as to say it would sink the site.
Question:
The 1200 are still playing here right now - do you think all of the 560 would continue playing here if this was implemented against their wishes?
Few left. More replaced them. And the site is far from dead.
I'm not too worried about this impacting the site negatively.
Originally posted by huckleberryhoundIts an opinon poll not a referendum. There are a significant number of objections, and there are many possible solutions that would be acceptable to both sides of the debate.
Its already a done deal. 1200 votes to 560. . . move on.
I would like to see a solution that:
a) helps speed up gameplay at RHP
b) rewards players who play well within the timeout period by depositing a portion of the time they have saved on each move into their timebanks.
c) allows timebanks to used for vacations
d) extends timeouts at the start of tournament rounds to cater for those players who are on holiday, or are about to go on holiday.
d) makes timeouts automatic
e) eliminates the need for skulls.
f) elliminates the need for vacation flags.
g) is fair to all and removes the rancour, and the endless "bad sportmanship" threads that litter the forums i.r.o timeouts and the vacation flag.
Originally posted by GatecrasherBut not everyone is tied to the site the same way others are, to reward those who play fast takes away from the whole idea of the site.
Its an opinon poll not a referendum. There are a significant number of objections, and there are many possible solutions that would acceptable to both sides of the debate.
I would like to see a solution that:
a) helps speed up gameplay at RHP
b) rewards players who play well within the timeout period by depositing a portion of the time they have ...[text shortened]... ndless "bad sportmanship" threads that litter the forums i.r.o timeouts and the vacation flag.
Have you tried uchess?
Originally posted by huckleberryhoundI couldn't say right now - it would depend on how badly it affected things for me.
You haven't mentioned that you never got a vote yet. . .will you be leaving if the vote is carried ?
Obviously if it slowed games up badly it would seem pointless for non-subs to hang around - have to wait and see methinks.
One danger I foresee would be an unscrupulous, multi-accounting non-sub creating havoc. Unless it was applied to tournaments & sieges only.