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Vote # 13 Community Discussion

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Originally posted by Gatecrasher
Not so. It puts players in control of their own time management, without the need for having arbitrary vacation periods imposed on them.

Many people, in arguing for a vacation period, have said that it is unfair that a player can play timeously throughout a game, but when unable to play for a couple of weeks finds themselves timed out when they retur ...[text shortened]... [b]is
a problem. An expanding timebank, in response to faster play, elliminates the problem.[/b]
Not so. It leaves me not in control. I accept a game or set up a game for what I can do, and your suggestion leave that in my opponents control.

If you even think there might be a couple of weeks you cannot move you would be better served to make or accept games that you can handle. That would be more sportsmanlike if you asked me. I think that timeouts should be automatic.

RTh

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To me, chess can be more than just a game. In many cases I see it as a sport. To watch some of the really good players like Gatecrasher and David Teb play it is almost like watching pro pro boxers going at each other in slow motion, less the blood of course. But it just doesn't seem right in any sporting event for one of the opponents while getting knocked about to suddenly call time out in the middle of the heavy weight championship and claim I am going to go in a 30 vacation see you latter after I heal up and get my wind back. In the mean time I am going to explore all possible ways to create an advantage. What a ridiculous unfair advantage in any sporting event. Even if it is just a game it is still an unfair advantage.

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Originally posted by cashthetrash
To me, chess can be more than just a game. In many cases I see it as a sport. To watch some of the really good players like Gatecrasher and David Teb play it is almost like watching pro pro boxers going at each other in slow motion, less the blood of course. But it just doesn't seem right in any sporting event for one of the opponents while getting knoc ...[text shortened]... air advantage in any sporting event. Even if it is just a game it is still an unfair advantage.
I'm not sure I see the analogy, however in any case you fail to deal with the existing situation where one boxer punches out the other one while he is in his corner sitting down?

The idea about the timebank regeneration or extension is flawed when it comes to breaks early on in a game, and I think making it more complex in order to resolve these issues is flogging a fairly dead horse. A second very much missed point about using longer timebanks is that every game you setup would need these extra 7 or 14 days (yes and whom knows what that would be in advance, crystal balls issued FOC?) and thus every game you play would last that much longer, not just the ones that span genuine holidays.


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I think this idea is a good one to discourage misuse. An ability to select the number of days for the break, minimum of 4 (say) will encourage the proper use of the facility. Basically I would see the vacation flag freezing the time counters, so there is no issue with having to move in X games at the same time on return, that aspect of time management is the responsibility of the individual. The idea about being able to post but not play games is garbage - the point is if you can get onto the site you can play the games.

Another benefit of having the vacation flag enforced is that while timeouts might not change much I'll bet that more people feel more comfortable with a smaller timebank overall.

Oh and

No, the Sky is not falling on your head, RingTailhunter etc, so don't panic.

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Originally posted by snowinscotland
I'm not sure I see the analogy, however in any case you fail to deal with the existing situation where one boxer punches out the other one while he is in his corner sitting down?

The idea about the timebank regeneration or extension is flawed when it comes to breaks early on in a game, and I think making it more complex in order to resolve these i ...[text shortened]... .

Oh and

No, the Sky is not falling on your head, RingTailhunter etc, so don't panic.
Thank you for posting this twice, once here and once in the site ideas.

I play less than ten games at a time. I will go with a time no less than 3 days with a 7 day time bank in most cases because it will allow me to take a week off and be back in plenty of time to make a move. I will sometimes even take a 3 day, 0 time bank because my schedule will allow it because I want to play chess. The thing about vacation immunity is that if someone accepts my game offer of a 3 day time out we can make the required 3 moves and they can go off on vacation leaving me with a non moving game that I cant git rid of. I should be able to punish this person for taking up a 3 day game and going on vacation the same day for a week by taking the skull in my opinion.


RTh

[I decide when the sky is falling, not you.]