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Kirksey:

dunno where you're gonna get tenured eventually- I know that teachers tend to hurt people more than they help them- but I also know there are some exceptions. Hope you can look at your charges (cause they really are that) without the teacher goggles, after you're tenured.

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Originally posted by mitiege
I know that teachers tend to hurt people more than they help them
One of the Ivory Tower's principles is that Knowledge is Power.
Information can't hurt you. It can only help you by revealing
more options to you. Kirksey is simply sharing his bountiful
wisdom with the rest of us, and it is up to each of us to
interpret it as we will. If we find it harmful, we can simply
ignore it. So I really don't see how you can claim that
teachers tend to hurt more than help.

Dr. Cribs

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I don't recall saying that Kirksey had hurt anyone. As for teachers... in fact I think I was expressing a hope that he would be a teacher who wouldn't hurt anyone. And saying that I thought that I would make him atypical, in the profession. Don't recall saying that he had, in fact, hurt anyone. [looks back over posts] can't find it-point it out?

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Originally posted by mitiege
I don't recall saying that Kirksey had hurt anyone. As for teachers... in fact I think I was expressing a hope that he would be a teacher who wouldn't hurt anyone. And saying that I thought that I would make him atypical, in the profession. Don't recall saying that he had, in fact, hurt anyone. [looks back over posts] can't find it-point it out?
I never said you made that claim. Strike Kirksey's name from my last
post and fill it in with the teacher of your choice. My argument still
holds. I was just trying to make it concrete.

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" So I really don't see how you can claim that
teachers tend to hurt more than help. "

Now, this is logically unconnected to the rest of your post. I am curious as to why you think anything above this, in your post supports this "question" (which is not avtually meant as a question, but as a statement- of what I am not sure)

Even if you are not willing to make a statement, I will- the nicest thing thart you can say about teachers in the US is that they have overwhelmingly failed in their job. The truth is not nearly that nice. Before you tell any teenager what to do, perhaps you should look at the NEA, and at their teachers. Is it any wonder that they are what they are?

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" Kirksey is simply sharing his bountiful
wisdom with the rest of us, and it is up to each of us to
interpret it as we will. If we find it harmful, we can simply
ignore it. So I really don't see how you can claim that
teachers tend to hurt more than help. "

and:

"I never said you made that claim."

Is not the above ,basically that claim? why is Kirksey in it, if not?

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Originally posted by mitiege
" Kirksey is simply sharing his bountiful
wisdom with the rest of us, and it is up to each of us to
interpret it as we will. If we find it harmful, we can simply
ignore it. So I really don't see how you can claim that
teachers tend to hurt more than help. "

and:

"I never said you made that claim."

Is not the above ,basically that claim? why is Kirksey in it, if not?
To use an old expression from high school..."Duh!!!"

I told you Kirksey's name there is just a placeholder
to make the argument concrete rather than completely
abstract. You can take out his name and put in the name
of any teacher you want (such as your algebra teacher
who should have taught you the purpose of named
variables).

You claimed that teachers tend to hurt more than help.
I'm saying that that is a false claim, regardless of what
teacher you are talking about. The reason is that the
only thing teachers really do is share knowledge and
information, neither of which can hurt you but only help you.

Dr. Cribs

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And for that matter, what is up with your indenting scheme...

The funny thing is that I'm a sort of conservative American... but I think there is something a bit fishy about you guys.... I think you are proselytizing. Now I have nothing against Christians, but... I think you are playing a funny game here. What's up with the Psalm like indenting?

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I simply invited someone to class. The door was simply opened. The Ivory Tower is becoming more than just a resource for knowledge as you will see. It is quickly becoming a community for sharing insight and experience. Again, the door is open.

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ok- no problem with that in the abstract- as I said, in fact I acused you of nothing, Kirksey- I have a few bones to pik with saythe NEA, but, onequestion- justcause I'm not sure- assume I'm crazy-.... the Ivorytower is secular, right? Don't misunderstand me- just haven't had a chane to look at what you are about.

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Originally posted by mitiege
ok- no problem with that in the abstract- as I said, in fact I acused you of nothing, Kirksey- I have a few bones to pik with saythe NEA, but, onequestion- justcause I'm not sure- assume I'm crazy-.... the Ivorytower is secular, right? D ...[text shortened]... stand me- just haven't had a chane to look at what you are about.
You can find a description of us in the Clans forum under a
thread called The Ivory Tower. We are neither secular
nor non-secular. We all represent a mix of beliefs that we
feel strongly about, and a mix of expertise that we share
through lessons in the forums.

Dr. Cribs

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Cause I was sharing knowledge with you Ivory Tower guys- thanks for being so receptive- at the time I thought that the metaphor of hitting me with a stick was a bit hostile... but I now see how friendly it was.

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"We are neither secular
nor non-secular."

I'm not really sure what you mean by this- could you clarify?

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Originally posted by mitiege
ok- no problem with that in the abstract- as I said, in fact I acused you of nothing, Kirksey- I have a few bones to pik with saythe NEA, but, onequestion- justcause I'm not sure- assume I'm crazy-.... the Ivorytower is secular, right? Don't misunderstand me- just haven't had a chane to look at what you are about.
The Ivory Tower is non-sectarian even though we now have a thread from Professor Skipper on the theme of religion and spirituality. I am not a teacher, however I was asked to provide a thread on something I felt I had something to offer. I chose parenting. As you will notice when you visit the thread, some of it is in a dialect to add interest and humor. But it should be said all the information is pertinent and better than you're going to get from Dr. Laura.

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Originally posted by mitiege
Cause I was sharing knowledge with you Ivory Tower guys- thanks for being so receptive- at the time I thought that the metaphor of hitting me with a stick was a bit hostile... but I now see how friendly it was.
Yes, it was a tough love pimp stick. Know what I'm sayin? 🙂