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Originally posted by shavixmirScientists actually did an experiment relating to harder drug usage. This was shown on panorama last night. They got rats stoned during their adolescent years and then exposed them to heroin in later life. They found that the rats that had been exposed to cannabis earlier in life were more likely to develop a smack habit. So i suppose what this tells us is that, you shouldn't leave your drugs lying about if you have a pet rat. You might come home to find him sat in your armchair, smoking your stash. Yes, it was all very vague, and full of ifs buts and maybes. I was expecing some serious ground breaking evidence that cannabis isn't as innnocent as we thought but nish. Nice bit of time lapse photography of a hash plant growing though.
What I am saying is that when you seperate soft drugs from hard drugs (like in Holland) you don't have the same people pushing both substances and therefor you lower the chances of people being tempted to use the other drug.
THC, the ...[text shortened]... observed and judged as such...otherwise it wouldn't be funny.
Originally posted by wucky3Its good to see you nice and destressed after the end of your exams. 😛 I better get that mix cd off to you, right after I've added a couple of chill out choons. 😉
Like I said..it wasn't funny. All Scots/dutch men are fat. There..is it funny...no I think not and it isn't true either. I'm getting fcked off because you know this isn't the only pop you've had at me over the last couple of weeks. Well fcuk you all
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Originally posted by wucky3When making satirical comments, I exaggerate certain attitudes. You know I do and that I always have done.
Like I said..it wasn't funny. All Scots/dutch men are fat. There..is it funny...no I think not and it isn't true either. I'm getting fcked off because you know this isn't the only pop you've had at me over the last couple of weeks. Well fcuk you all
When I say something discriminatory I'm taking the piss out of the attitude, not the targeted group.
I would think that would be clear for all, especially if they know my political attitudes (which I suppose most people here do).
I've not had one "pop" at you other than the common "pops" I've had at everyone else.
And to say so says more about interpretation than intent.
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[b]Here's an ex-smoker's theory about cannabis:
Pros:
1) It makes you very stupid
Have to disagree--it is relative. Some creative people swear by it--William Burroughs, for example. Heroin did nothing for his creativity but he swore by "the old green tit" as a cure for writer's block. Not that Burroughs is necessarily a role model for the boy next door, but his example goes some way to disprove your blanket statement. It's like people for whom "marijuana does nothing"--they claim it doesn't affect them, or just makes them sick. Then there are those whom a single toke will pitch into unfathomable abysses of paranoia...I think individual chemistry/metabolism is an important factor. What do you think about shrooms?
Originally posted by Bosse de Nageshrooms make my stomache ache.
Have to disagree--it is relative. Some creative people swear by it--William Burroughs, for example. Heroin did nothing for his creativity but he swore by "the old green tit" as a cure for writer's block. Not that Burroughs is necessarily a role model for the boy next door, but his example goes some way to disprove your blanket statement. It's lik ...[text shortened]... I think individual chemistry/metabolism is an important factor. What do you think about shrooms?
About creativity and weed, that's got nothing to with the weed and more to do with psychologically conditioning your mind into feeling more confident about your creativity. You could probably substitute 'smoking weed' with 'wearing your lucky socks' and it'd have the same effect if you really believed in those socks.
Originally posted by hopscotchA bit categorical, there, Hopscotch, you speak as though you have all the answers. Assuming psychological conditioning rather than THC accounts for enhanced creativity (I don't think it's an either/or scenario myself), does smoking weed still make you stupid? (I'm putting lucky socks at the top of my shopping list 🙂)
shrooms make my stomache ache.
About creativity and weed, that's got nothing to with the weed and more to do with psychologically conditioning your mind into feeling more confident about your creativity. You could probably substitute 'smoking weed' with 'wearing your lucky socks' and it'd have the same effect if you really believed in those socks.
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Originally posted by Bosse de NageI guess I should have included a disclamer there:
A bit categorical, there, Hopscotch, you speak as though you have all the answers. Assuming psychological conditioning rather than THC accounts for enhanced creativity (I don't think it's an either/or scenario myself), does smoking ...[text shortened]... upid? (I'm putting lucky socks at the top of my shopping list 🙂)
In my humble opinion based on years of research in the subject
weed makes people stupid. It wears down your mind, buddy.
2 years ago I would be the biggest voice in here disagreeing with myself, but I've come to the conclusion that as much as we'd like to fight anti-cannabis laws and make cannabis socially acceptable, it's not without its negative side affects, and the biggest side effect that I noticed was a decreased capacity for problem solving, and clarity of consciousness. i.e. stupid. I'm not saying that I'm not stupid, I'm just saying that cannabis helps make us all stupiderer.
Originally posted by Bosse de NageIn my humble opinion based on years of research in the subject
Reading between the lines, everything in moderation...Now that you have stopped puffing, what alternatives do you recommend for mental clarity? Water and exercise aside.
There's no such thing as mental clarity, there are only different levels of abstraction of reality via subjectivism.
This programme was sensationalist propoganda, and used scientific data that is unproven, unpublished and entirely irrelevant. I was disgusted that Panorama decided to use data from a so called scientific institute that had not replicated their experiments and achieved matching results.
What the hell relevance did rats wanting more heroin have on teenagers wanting more cannabis???
I personally think this is another way of the BBC blowing wind up the backsides of politicians so that they can maintain their Licensing. With the recent announcement that Charles Clarke is attempting to reverse Blunket's decision to reclassify cannabis I was amazed at how quickly they decided to put together this blatantly misleading documentary.
Of course cannabis is harmful, not just to mental health, but to physical health as well, but what about Alchohol, Nicotine, the air that we breathe everytime we walk out the ******** door?
We are born, we start to deterioate immediately and then we die.......
What we do in between should be our own business as long as we are educated truthfully (and not because of political agenda) then we can all make an informed choice.
I have emailed Panorama.......