A friend of mine who eats ony RAW, told me that I really didn't need a triple bypass last year... that I could've simply FASTED and that would've cleaned my body up - including the plugged arteries.
So, I think it stands to reason that THIS SITE probably has the most intellegent people in the world! Yeah, so I want to ask what everyone's opinion is about keeping healthy. And if I do decide to fast, how long should I do it?
Originally posted by arrakisI think you should probably listen to your doctor. Your friend's suggestion sounds a little odd.
A friend of mine who eats ony RAW, told me that I really didn't need a triple bypass last year... that I could've simply FASTED and that would've cleaned my body up - including the plugged arteries.
So, I think it stands to reason that THIS SITE probably has the most intellegent people in the world! Yeah, so I want to ask what everyone's opinion is about keeping healthy. And if I do decide to fast, how long should I do it?
Originally posted by arrakisDon't fast. As a cleansing method or a dieting method.
A friend of mine who eats ony RAW, told me that I really didn't need a triple bypass last year... that I could've simply FASTED and that would've cleaned my body up - including the plugged arteries.
So, I think it stands to reason that THIS SITE probably has the most intellegent people in the world! Yeah, so I want to ask what everyone's opinion is about keeping healthy. And if I do decide to fast, how long should I do it?
It won't clean your arteries.
Also if you use it as a dieting method your metabolism slows down and you lose a combination of muscle and fat. When you finish fasting you gain the weight back ridiculously easily but as fat. Yoyoing weight is a huge health nono.
As for keeping healthy. Just eat sensibly. Listen to your body. If your hungry eat something don't starve yourself. Of course don't go eating junk food the whole time. Don't go on crazy fad diets (Atkins etc.) because while they may help you lose weight there are concerns they may hurt your health in the long term.
You may not drop pounds in days but at least you are eating in a way that you have the willpower to keep up for a long time.
Originally posted by arrakisFirstly, I have nothing against doctors - I'll go to one if I break a leg! Hoewever, most doctors only look for a chemical "quick fix", or the so-called "silver bullet" when something goes wrong. They can't tell you what to do to keep healthy (and it would be bad for business 😀 !!)
A friend of mine who eats ony RAW, told me that I really didn't need a triple bypass last year... that I could've simply FASTED and that would've cleaned my body up - including the plugged arteries.
I want to ask what everyone's opinion is about keeping healthy. And if I do decide to fast, how long should I do it?
A doctor friend told me that in six years pre-med and four years specialisation, they received a total of four hours (count them: FOUR!) instruction on diet, and that was how to teach mothers how to mix baby formula!! (The book by Dr F Contreras: "Health in the 21st century: will doctors survive?" gives more details)
As somebody else said already, temporary diets are almost always more harmful than good. One must look at lifestyle changes. When I refer to "diet" I mean the way you eat - permanently.
There are many different diets, including Atkins, Blood group, etc etc, which makes it so confusing. After extensive research, my wife and I adhere to the following regime:
1 Eat losts of raw fruit and vegetable. One meal a day should be only fruit.
2 Avoid, or reduce significantly, all refined foods, like processed cheeses and meats, and refined flour and sugars.
3 Reduce significantly all animal protein, except free-range chicken and fish. Instead, gets lots of mono-unsaturated and poly-unsaturated oils, (Omega 3, 6 and 9) which you get in flax seed oil, extra virgin olive oil and deep water fish.
4 Ensure that you get sufficient nutrients. Modern mass produced food is notoriously deficient in even the basic nutrients. For example, Cotreras reports that a "long-life" tomato (long life because even the bugs won't eat it!) will contain on average 20 mg Magnesium, whereas a normal "organic" tomato, growing like a weed in my garden, will typically contain 2000 mg Mg! In other words, get a good, chelated, multivitamin supplement.
5 Drink lots of water: 8 glasses per day.
(What I should have said right at the start, NO healthy diet means anything unless one first gets rid of all obviously detrimental habits, like smoking and excessive alcohol use.)
Arteries don't get clogged, nor do they get cleansed, overnight. But a regular fast DOES help to cleanse and detox the body. We have a programme of colon cleansing that we use regularly, because it is actually in the colon that your problems start. Because of insufficient roughage (refined foods!) the colon gets clogged and because the body cannot excrete the waste, you auto-intoxicate yourself. (That is a separate loong story!)
Coming back to your post, I believe a fasting regime could have made a difference, but only if you had done it early enough. As to length, clearly it varies. From a few days on only clear fruit juice, to up to a month has been recommended. But one does not do it lightly, but under supervision and with support. Also, never as a once off, then back to regular MacDonalds food!
Lastly, we don't "black-list" any food, but will eat a juicy steak or chocolate in moderation , like when we eat out once or twice a month.
In peace
CJ
Originally posted by CalJustMost of your post seems like pretty good advice for healthy eating, but I don't agree with this.
4 Ensure that you get sufficient nutrients. Modern mass produced food is notoriously deficient in even the basic nutrients. For example, Cotreras reports that a "long-life" tomato (long life because even the bugs won't eat it!) will contain on average 20 mg Magnesium, whereas a normal "organic" tomato, growing like a weed in my garden, will typically contain 2000 mg Mg! In other words, get a good, chelated, multivitamin supplement.
If you are taking as much care as you say to get a good, balanced diet, fresh fruit, veg, balanced proteins, etc. then there should, in my opinion, be absolutely no need for multivitamins.
Originally posted by VargLots of people, including many doctors and nutritionists, would agree with you.
Most of your post seems like pretty good advice for healthy eating, but I don't agree with this.
If you are taking as much care as you say to get a good, balanced diet, fresh fruit, veg, balanced proteins, etc. then there should, in my opinion, be absolutely no need for multivitamins.
However, I use it as a relatively cheap insurance policy.
For example, studies have shown that in the US, those states whose soil is deficient in the trace minerals Selenium and Zinc, have a far higher incidence of cancer than the national average. Hence, it would make sense to simply take a Se and Zn supplement in those states! (This comes from Contreras' book).
We use BarleyLife and the AIM supplements. BarleyLife is the concentrated juice of green barley leaves, and is reputed to contain the highest concentration of vitamins, minerals, trace elements and phyto chemicals known in a natural plant. So actually it is a food, not a synthetic pill.
If you always know where your vegetables come from, and you know that they have not been contaminated with pesticides, herbicides or stored in a refrigerator for weeks, then you probably do not need supplements.
in good health
CJ
Originally posted by VargNow that we live in a Supermarket world, where paying a truckers wage and for petrol is a cheaper means of storage than having big warehouses everywhere, a lot of the fruit and veg we get has been picked maybe 1-2 weeks before it gets to the supermarket, in which time it loses a lot of its nutritional goodness.
Most of your post seems like pretty good advice for healthy eating, but I don't agree with this.
If you are taking as much care as you say to get a good, balanced diet, fresh fruit, veg, balanced proteins, etc. then there should, in my opinion, be absolutely no need for multivitamins.
Also, some people have trouble extracting some of the required nutrition from food (I, for example, can't extract iron from food), so supplements are the only way to get the required vitamin.
Also, I'm pretty sceptical of GP's who prescribe, prescribe, prescribe. I read about a woman who had been given 6 months to live by doctors due to cancer, and she decided to go to Mexico to try out a detox that she had read about. After 1 year of hourly juices, lots of raw fresh foods, daily colonics and general healthy living, there was absolutely no sign of any cancerous cell in her body. A couple of years later she developed another tumour, and she went back on the diet regime again. She had to have the lump removed cos it interfered with her hip movements, and when the doctors went in for the lump, they noticed that her body was after surrounding it with tissue, and isolating it from the rest of her body.
I think traditional medicine is great, and would be much better if it weren't for the Christian Churches purges of all healers (or witches as they liked to call them then). A lot of indigenous people have brilliant remedies for all sorts of ailments just by using the plants in their area. Native american Indians were unaffected by the massive flu epidemic of 1918 (year?) because their diet was high in echinacea, a herb high in flu fighting ability.
Originally posted by RagnorakOf course you never hear of the hundreds of people who are given 6 months to live then they live somewhere in that ballpark before dying. They don't make good news stories really.
Now that we live in a Supermarket world, where paying a truckers wage and for petrol is a cheaper means of storage than having big warehouses everywhere, a lot of the fruit and veg we get has been picked maybe 1-2 weeks before it gets to the supermarket, in which time it loses a lot of its nutritional goodness.
Also, some people have trouble extracting ...[text shortened]... c of 1918 (year?) because their diet was high in echinacea, a herb high in flu fighting ability.
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I think what Cal said was generally good, it's about being sensible and not limiting beyond reason. I personally wouldn't bother with multivitamins because the majority of them won't be taken up by the body and will be flushed through your system.
Get a healthy amount of exercise too. The real key to exercise is do what is most suitable for your current state of health, don't think of going running if you get out of breath walking up the stairs, instead walk up the stairs twice as often, then increase this slowly over a period of time. Once you no longer get tired walking up the stairs, think about going for an easy short jog, or getting a cycling machine. Do it in small constantly increasing periods, allowing your body time to rst and repair. Within a few months you will notice a remarkable difference. Of course if you already do some sport or run regularly, then you are probably fairly healthy already and there is no need to push yourself to hard unless you are aiming to compete at a high level or something. Often a good indication of fitness is whether you are able to do the simple things your life demands and not suffer from your actions.
Sleep and water are important, as is good posture (I'm becoming really strict on myself about this). Not smoking and drinking less then 10 units of alcohol a week helps too, although a small glass of red wine every so often is a good idea.
Also, take time out to relax and calm yourself, stress is as important a health issue as dieting or exercise. Stretch, breathe and clear your head at least once a day, be nice to people and reap the benefits of tolerance and inner peace 🙂
Above all enjoy life, what's the point in having it otherwise?
Originally posted by XanthosNZ1) Who said I read it in the news? I read the ladies autobiography.
Of course you never hear of the hundreds of people who are given 6 months to live then they live somewhere in that ballpark before dying. They don't make good news stories really.
2) Point me to 1 published example of the 'hundreds' (Given that you don't even know the name of the diet, you'd probably have trouble. I'll help you out, its called the Gershin diet.)
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Originally posted by Ragnorak1) Dead people write crappy autobiographies.
1) Who said I read it in the news? I read the ladies autobiography.
2) Point me to 1 published example of the 'hundreds' (Given that you don't even know the name of the diet, you'd probably have trouble. I'll help you out, its called the Gershin diet.)
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2) I wasn't talking about that (or any) diet in particular. I was referring in general to all those news stories and sob-filled weepy documentaries about doctors giving time to live and it being passed.
Originally posted by XanthosNZMy Dad was given 6 months to live, but the doctors managed to polish him off in 5, along with all his remaining wealth.
Of course you never hear of the hundreds of people who are given 6 months to live then they live somewhere in that ballpark before dying. They don't make good news stories really.
CJ, I'm with you on this. My wife and I follow an identical regime, even down to the Barley Life!
Doctors and modern medicine are great when it comes to treating emergencies and trauma. For health maintenance steer well clear.
If you are constantly ill, 9 times out of 10 it is because of your lifestyle choices. Popping pills to mask the symptoms only leads to greater problems.
Listen to your bodies, not your doctors.
If possible buy your food direct from the growers, producers, fishermen etc.
You can see how it it produced, and if you are really into it you can see what they feed their stock (low levels of dioxin are good for fish) pesticides can harm crops etc, how clean their farms are, and you can give feedback to the producers on his or her produce.
It will be fresher, cheaper and if you buy from local people you will also support the environment (lower transport emissions)and the local economy. This will clear your conscience if not your arteries.
I can't tell you what to eat, as others have said listening to your body is good. Sushi is low in fat but high in omega 3's (fatty acids). But then again I run a sushi restaurant so I'm slightly biased.
Originally posted by GatecrasherMy mother was diagnosed with cancer after she went to the doctor for pain in her bladder. They did a biopsy and it came out positive... Then they scheduled her for:
My Dad was given 6 months to live, but the doctors managed to polish him off in 5, along with all his remaining wealth.
CJ, I'm with you on this. My wife and I follow an identical regime, even down to the Barley Life!
Doctors and modern medicine are great when it comes to treating emergencies and trauma. For health maintenance steer well clear.
...[text shortened]... mask the symptoms only leads to greater problems.
Listen to your bodies, not your doctors.
Surgery
Chemo-therapy
Radiation treatments
But one day before all this stuff took place, they discovered that she didn't have health insurance! <GASP!>
So they removed the growth on her bladder and sent her home to die! The doctor even said to her, "YOU'RE FULL OF CANCER. YOUR LACK OF HAVING HEALTH INSURANCE IMPEDES OUR ABILITY TO SAVE YOUR LIFE."
Well, that was 20 years ago... the old coot is still yelling at me if I don't meet her expectations. 🙂