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@Suzianne said
The one great thing about Trump: He can always be used as a bad example.
It would be hard to argue that point for sure!!! 😉


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The bible does not specifically address lots of issues eg abortion. Nothing is said about it, but one can use other related passages and rightly conclude that God would not approve of abortion. Similarly people who are homosexuals have found ways to justify their sinful lifestyle by claiming that Jesus was also a homosexual. People can and do twist the bible, and avoid making reasonable conclusions

In the case of marriage the bible specifically says / recommends
- no sex prior to marriage
- faithfulness to your spouse ie no adultery
- no divorce except for adultery
- being mature and responsible
- love and obedience to your spouse.
- husband is the head of the wife

etc, etc. there are more. One can use these recommendations to conclude that young people are not ready for marriage which is a responsibility that must be approached with a great sense of commitment. The figures also show that there is a greater incidence of divorce, separation and broken homes among younger people, who marry in the early to mid 20s.


@Rajk999 said
The bible does not specifically address lots of issues eg abortion. Nothing is said about it, but one can use other related passages and rightly conclude that God would not approve of abortion. Similarly people who are homosexuals have found ways to justify their sinful lifestyle by claiming that Jesus was also a homosexual. People can and do twist the bible, and avoid maki ...[text shortened]... nce of divorce, separation and broken homes among younger people, who marry in the early to mid 20s.
Do you not think the whole 'no sex before marriage thing' might hurry many Christians into marriages that they later realise were a mistake/rushed?


Try before you buy is often the best option.

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@Ghost-of-a-Duke said
Do you not think the whole 'no sex before marriage thing' might hurry many Christians into marriages that they later realise were a mistake/rushed?


Try before you buy is often the best option.
... and "husband is the head of the wife" - only a bewildered man would believe in that.

... and "no divorce except for adultery" - one sure way to sustain an unhappy marriage.


@Torunn said
... and "husband is the head of the wife" - only a bewildered man would believe in that.

... and "no divorce except for adultery" - one sure way to sustain an unhappy marriage.
Shouldn’t all “options” be determined before entering into the commitment? Isn’t that why we have lawyers?🤔😁


@Ghost-of-a-Duke said
Do you not think the whole 'no sex before marriage thing' might hurry many Christians into marriages that they later realise were a mistake/rushed?


Try before you buy is often the best option.
Im sure it does, however the standard God set does not change. This 'try out' business is the reason why many young women now have 'body counts' running into the hundreds, Im pretty sure many have regretted such a lifestyle although getting them to admit that they have made a mistake is not easy. They quite often end up alone, childless and lonely.

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@Torunn said
... and "husband is the head of the wife" - only a bewildered man would believe in that.

... and "no divorce except for adultery" - one sure way to sustain an unhappy marriage.
Of course you are correct, and free to live as you [people in general] please as the laws of God are not for everyone. Hence the warning for Christians [Im sure Hindus, Muslims as well] to avoid becoming 'unequally yoked' with unbelievers. So really there is no problem. The modern way of thinking is to prioritize short term fun and satisfaction, and family life suffers leading to a host of problems with damaged kids etc. Long term stablilty and happiness is cast aside. Permanent bonds is what God intended, because this is the only way for children to become successful adults. In many countries broken homes and single parent households is the root cause of social problems.


@Great-Big-Stees said
Shouldn’t all “options” be determined before entering into the commitment? Isn’t that why we have lawyers?🤔😁
Commitment is the problem. People generally seek after fleeting fun and happiness and when this turns out to be an illusion they find someone to blame. Marriage is no longer a sacred commitment since people are no longer God-fearing, and lean toward money and material possessions. Particularly with women who [in modern societies], initiate about 90% of the divorce cases.

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@Rajk999 said
Permanent bonds is what God intended, because this is the only way for children to become successful adults. In many countries broken homes and single parent households is the root cause of social problems.
Hmm, not sure about the 'only way' part.

Many people (myself included) come from a family where parental bonds haven't been permanent and yet have gone on to be successful and well grounded adults.

Parents remaining in a loveless marriage can be more damaging to the future happiness and prosperity of their offspring.

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@Ghost-of-a-Duke said
Hmm, not sure about the 'only way' part.

Many people (myself included) come from a family where parental bonds haven't been permanent and yet have gone on to be successful and well grounded adults.

Parents remaining in a loveless marriage can be more damaging to the future happiness and prosperity of their offspring.
For every one like you that made it out in good shape, there are dozens whose life was in shambles after the experience of a broken home. I would guess it all depends on your personality and how things played out. In the worst case scenarios, the neglected children drop out of school, end up with gangs, drugs and commit violent crimes. The stabilizing force of a happy family-life is critical for some people to succeed. Its a mess otherwise. Not everyone is a strong as you are.

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not quite an autobiography, neither a confession, merely a personal anecdote
i was born brain damaged and frail, nearly died at birth
growing up in the sixties i was oppressed, prolly not abused, but unsure
i became an addict and a criminal by the time i was 21 years of age
by the time i turned 24 i had occupied seven different jail cells in five different states
(the mental institutions came later)

now,
these days i do not own property or status, only an internet connection to my name
but i am successful and happy, even tho my brain is still damaged
i had rice and sausage for breakfast

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@rookie54 said
you asked for it
not quite an autobiography, neither a confession, merely a personal anecdote
i was born brain damaged and frail, nearly died at birth
growing up in the sixties i was oppressed, prolly not abused, but unsure
i became an addict and a criminal by the time i was 21 years of age
by the time i turned 24 i had occupied seven different jail cells in five differ ...[text shortened]... i am successful and happy, even tho my brain is still damaged
i had rice and sausage for breakfast
Katsup/ketchup on the sausage?🤔

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I think this thread is lost.
Spirituality is down there .. and debates is over there (on the right).