Originally posted by Bryan Ferry Nor is verbal abuse.
And worst of all: the use of chess software. Cheating is the only thing what can ever stop internet chess because basically the web is perfect for chess.
But cheating is a serious problem: I know so many players> 2000 FIDE who dont play anymore time controls longer then 3/0 on ICC and this has only one reason: they want to be sure to play a human.
Cheating is a big problem, yes. That is why we have a game mod team which you should have gone to before you loaded up your engine mid game. Your admission above has been enough to kick other people for breaking the TOS. I expect you to join this list soon as I have notified the game mods. http://www.timeforchess.com/comhub/removedplayers.php
Originally posted by Bryan Ferry I am a very experienced player as I mentionned above, I played 20.000+ games on ICC and playchess before joining here.
And I still believe in my argument: the likelniness that somebody rated RHP-1500 plays 10 moves identical with FRITZ is near 0 % (except the opening moves). So if somebody rated 1500 does so, then there is something wrong.
How do you know they are identicle to Fritz moves if you didn't check on Fritz.
Originally posted by Bryan Ferry And I still believe in my argument: the likelniness that somebody rated RHP-1500 plays 10 moves identical with FRITZ is near 0 % (except the opening moves). So if somebody rated 1500 does so, then there is something wrong.
Actually if you knew anything you'd know that the chance of that isn't 0%. I can easily come up with situations where a 1200 player, a 2000 player and Fritz will all play the same 10 moves.
I already told this: I dont know this yet, but I rely on my feeling and on my experience (and according to a lot of players who were on my ignore-list on ICC and then were caught for cheating, I seem to be often right). There are games with lot tactics in open positions and more closed games. If the first, and the opponent always goes right, then you get from move to move more susipicious (as long as your opponent isnt rated high and you can calculate with perfect tactics)
I never met situations in the middle game where a 1200-rated player will play the same 10 moves then a 2000-rated player.
Have you heard of forced moves? Or obvious moves? Imagine a long capture chain. Is it conceivable that a weak player could play the same moves as Fritz?
of course I made mistakes. If not, I would be rated 2000+ on RHP. But I played what is my level, there is nothing amazing around my play, sometimes somebody of the 1700-1800 RHP level makes mistakes, sometimes smaller ones, sometimes biger ones, nothing amazing about that.
But I am talking of your play. Isnt it amazing if somebody rated 1500 plays perfect FRITZ-moves (and only when things get public starts to make mistakes)???
of course I made mistakes. If not, I would be rated 2000+ on RHP. But I played what is my level, there is nothing amazing around my play, sometimes somebody of the 1700-1800 RHP level makes mistakes, sometimes smaller ones, sometimes biger one ...[text shortened]... ated 1500 plays perfect FRITZ-moves (and only when things get public starts to make mistakes)???
But you don't know they are perfect Fritz moves because you haven't checked them, right??
Even if a 1500 player is in a bad position Fritz will still be able to give a best move. A 1500 player can see far enough into a game to see an exchange 10 moves deep or so, at least on RHP. So why wouldn't he be playing moves that Fritz would recommend.
My guess is that you are just a sore loser who will immediatly accuse someone of cheating because you can't believe you got beaten by someone lower rated than you. Even though if you look at their graph (something you apparently have so far failed to do) you will realise that they are really 1700-1800 rated. In short, you suck.
....A 1500 player can see far enough into a game to see an exchange 10 moves deep or so....
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??? Sorry, but I cant say that you suck too. Your arguments are so laughable that nobody can take this serious. You cant be serious. Are you a comedian?
So shall we have a little test. I don't have Fritz or any engines so we'll need Xanthos or Ragnorak on board. I (or someone) picks a random game on this site. You see the position and pick the 10 recommended moves from Fritz using your head and someone with the engine will check them. I find it hard to believe you'll be able to achieve this.
I have 25 games in progress, all of them 1day/0 timebank-controls and 11 of them are waiting for my moves.
Play your quizz with yourself, I will not participate in a discussion with people who seriously tell me that a 1500-rated player calculates 10 moves in advance (!!).
RHP ratings by far too low or cheating ?
23 Apr '06 13:01
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