A lot of the moderation is down more to the perceived relationship between the reportee and the reported, rather than heavy handed moderation.
There is the issue of swear words not being allowed, however these are often obfuscated and get through. If poster A hates poster B and sees that B has put ???? off in a post then, he will report the transgression resulting in the post being removed. However poster C, a friend of A also says ???? off and if not brought to attention of mods the post will remain.
Until there is uniformity on the site, moderation will always be seen as being biased against some posters. Thats the way of the world.
- Joined
- 09 Nov 06
- Moves
- 0
-Removed-The flaw in what you're saying is that you're claiming it's your site. Red Hot Pawn is not your site, it belongs to the administrators. When moderating happens the moderators are following the wishes of the site administrators. There are plenty of times where the wishes of the administrators conflict with the wishes of the community in terms of forum posting guidelines and rules. The moderators do their thing on behalf of the site administrators and that's the side moderation is going to fall on.
Paying for the site doesn't mean that you own the site. It means you are entitled to the privileges that come with subscription. Subscribers don't get to control the content of the forums. Subscribers are allowed extended privilege in their forum use.
There will always be posters that want to cry foul when they can't post every little thing they wish to post. Oh well. There's hundreds of thousands of words in the English language and it's not necessary to focus on the inability to post certain words or certain words that convey a specific context. There really are lots of other words and phrases available.
Making forum moderation an 'us' vs 'them' debate is a bit off base. Moderators are subscribers, and posters, and play chess here too. It's not just yours, or theirs - it's "ours". Ours to the extent that subscription allows it to be ours, that is.
- Joined
- 10 Jan 08
- Moves
- 23315
Originally posted by Forum Moderatordude, when dive said 'our' he meant 'our' not 'mine' as you so wish to twist his post into. don't puts words into peoples mouths, you're giving a bad name to the rest of the forum moderators.
The flaw in what you're saying is that you're claiming it's your site. Red Hot Pawn is not your site, it belongs to the administrators. When moderating happens the moderators are following the wishes of the site administrators. There are plenty of times where the wishes of the administrators conflict with the wishes of the community in terms of forum ...[text shortened]... t's "ours". Ours to the extent that subscription allows it to be ours, that is.
for a start dive is not taking about the 'site' just it's forums, forums that lets face it the administrators don't really care about. they're nothing making any money directly from them and they put their trust into a few people to keep the forum 'user friendly' we'll say. it is a 13+ site, certain things shouldn't be allowed and no one is debating that fact.
what many of us are seeing since the new mods came to town though is a much stricter, less enjoyable forum. petty things are being removed that wouldn't have been under the old team, yes it's the responsibility of the poster to post within the 'forum guidelines' but as a mod you don't need to take those guidelines as your koran, common sense plus a sense of humor should be used when dealing with leftfield posts and certain alerts.
When moderating happens the moderators are following the wishes of the site administrators
funny that because the new over moderating style is pushing people not to renew their subscription... how do you think the admin feel about that?
Paying for the site doesn't mean that you own the site. It means you are entitled to the privileges that come with subscription. Subscribers don't get to control the content of the forums. Subscribers are allowed extended privilege in their forum use.
there you do putting words into people mouths again, in a quite patronising way i might add. the forums are free to use, subscriptions don't come into play here, non-subs (once they've been here a while) should be allowed to alert posts as well imo.
1 edit
Originally posted by Forum ModeratorI think it is all just this simple: The modding changed when the new mods came on board.
The flaw in what you're saying is that you're claiming it's your site. Red Hot Pawn is not your site, it belongs to the administrators. When moderating happens the moderators are following the wishes of the site administrators. There are plenty of times where the wishes of the administrators conflict with the wishes of the community in terms of forum t's "ours". Ours to the extent that subscription allows it to be ours, that is.
I call this our site, as I am a Member of RHP and a paying subscriber. I am quite aware the OWNERS can kick me out. I think the whole issue here is that the modding actually has changed, and we don't know where the line is anymore.
- Joined
- 09 Nov 06
- Moves
- 0
Originally posted by Very RustyHi VR,
I think it is all just this simple: The modding changed when the new mods came on board.
I call this our site, as I am a Member of RHP and a paying subscriber. I am quite aware the OWNERS can kick me out. I think the whole issue here is that the modding actually has changed, and we don't know where the line is anymore.
There are 4 new users contributing to the moderation of the forum, that is half of the team, you can't expect the new mods to be "born" with the experience of another who has been modding for years, you just won't get that, it is impossible. Four different people to get used to the system, four different personalities to blend in. You can hardly expect us to be perfect after a month on the job. I've learned a lot in this month or so we are on the job, I've become much less strict and probably will be getting even less strict with experience. I think you have to be a little more patient for the new mods to get the experience necessary not to make some mistakes.
1 edit
Originally posted by Forum ModeratorI just pointed out the obvious is all.
Hi VR,
There are 4 new users contributing to the moderation of the forum, that is half of the team, you can't expect the new mods to be "born" with the experience of another who has been modding for years, you just won't get that, it is impossible. Four different people to get used to the system, four different personalities to blend in. You can har e more patient for the new mods to get the experience necessary not to make some mistakes.
It becomes confusing to the rest of us regular forum posters when we don't know where the line is anymore. Many of us have been bantering back and forth for years, some much longer than I.
We all know that it is not personal. And that is true for 99% of the cases I am sure. It is just everyone likes to feel like they have won the argument. Who really wins, and what are you winning? It is all playful banter as far as I am concerned.
Certainly you are going to get people who just don't like the way the other person comes across in the forums. That is just human nature, but we all have to learn to get along at some point. Do you actually think I am serious on every single thing I post in the forums?