21 Aug 07
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Originally posted by RamnedIt depends on the position but 3 joined pawns supported by a king would have good winning chances against a lone Knight. A Bishop may be able to draw against 3 connected pawns but depending on the position of the stronger sides King and Rook a lone Rook should, in my opinion, have good winning chances.
Is it usual for the 3 pawns to win vs a knight or is it a draw? What about 3 pawns vs bishop or rook? And is it theoretically favoring 9 pawns vs a queen?
A lone queen should win most positions against 8 pawns as it can usually pick off the pawns with check / gain of tempo 1 by 1.
21 Aug 07
Originally posted by Dragon FireA rook should win against three connected pawns? Cool, you learn something new everyday.
It depends on the position but 3 joined pawns supported by a king would have good winning chances against a lone Knight, whereas a Bishop may be able to draw and a Rook should win.
A lone queen should win most positions against 8 pawns as it can usually pick off the pawns with check / gain of tempo 1 by 1.
Ps: I just ran a knight v. 3 pawns in various positions (all from natural starting places) and every time it drew.
21 Aug 07
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Originally posted by ih8sensIt always depends on the position although I actually I meant 3 connected pawns should win against a Knight and didn't necessarily mean connected against the Rook. A rook could have difficulty winning against 3 advanced and connected pawns but I believe should win if their king is in front of and can hold the pawns and the Rook is correctly placed (I must look this up tonight when I get home as I might just be talking a load of tripe). Against isolated pawns the Rook should win easily.
A rook should win against three connected pawns? Cool, you learn something new everyday.
Ps: I just ran a knight v. 3 pawns in various positions (all from natural starting places) and every time it drew.
Black to move. Can he draw?
Put the white pieces bank a rank. Any difference?
2 ranks back, what now?
Would you prefer to reposition the black knight? Put it anywhere with black still to move and show us the draw.
21 Aug 07
the reason i asked is because i have a game Game 3453491 and wondered if i was playing aimlessly.
I think I can win it with them being connected.
21 Aug 07
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Originally posted by RamnedDon't you realise that you've effectively asked for (and received) advice about a game in progress? The honourable thing to do would be to resign the game, or at least offer a draw.
the reason i asked is because i have a game Game 3453491 and wondered if i was playing aimlessly.
I think I can win it with them being connected.
21 Aug 07
Originally posted by Fat Ladyhmm...to be fair, I don't think this is really a breach of the TOS, seeing as they asked for general advice on N v 3p endgame, not about the exact position
Don't you realise that you've effectively asked for (and received) advice about a game in progress? The honourable thing to do would be to resign the game, or at least offer a draw.
21 Aug 07
Originally posted by Fat LadyEven if that was against the rules, the information in this thread didn't change my intentions in any way.
Don't you realise that you've effectively asked for (and received) advice about a game in progress? The honourable thing to do would be to resign the game, or at least offer a draw.
21 Aug 07
Originally posted by ShinidokiThe main point is not whether the person is seeking general or specific advice, but rather just the fact that they are seeking any advice relating to a game in progress.
hmm...to be fair, I don't think this is really a breach of the TOS, seeing as they asked for [b]general advice on N v 3p endgame, not about the exact position[/b]
Initially the poster was wondering if he was playing aimlessly. And now he thinks he can win. So this thread changed the chances of him offering a draw and that's unfair to his opponent.
And if asking didn't help with his game... why ask at all?
