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  1. 19 Mar '09 21:17
    I stumbled across this.

    I would loved to have seen Black's face when he saw 17.Bxh7+

    It's a wonderful trap that White played for. A classic.

    Georgie P 1297 v Palynka 1736




    Sorry about that Palynka could not resist it, sure you will see the funny side.
  2. 19 Mar '09 21:30
    just an ordinary trap
  3. 19 Mar '09 21:33
    Originally posted by EmLasker
    just an ordinary trap
    It's not even a trap - just not paying attention to your opponent's immediate threats. Looks like something I'd do in a momentary lapse of concentration.
  4. 19 Mar '09 21:40
    But considering the gulf between the players and idea behind g4.

    Can you not see the humour of it all?

    You guys have been playing endings too long.
  5. Standard member SwissGambit
    Caninus Interruptus
    19 Mar '09 21:44 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    But considering the gulf between the players and idea behind g4.

    Can you not see the humour of it all?

    You guys have been playing endings too long.
    Surely the French defense version of this trap is better - White is playing sensible moves, and Black gets too eager to eat the d4 pawn, rather than this game, in which 16.g4? is a weakening move in a bad position.
  6. 19 Mar '09 21:45
    I'd never really seen the Dutch before. When I saw 1.d4 f5 and then a 2...Nf6 in this game, I thought, "Cool, a kingside Sicilian!"

    btw, in the Dutch, is it unusual for Black to castle kingside?
  7. 19 Mar '09 22:02
    Originally posted by SwissGambit
    Surely the French defense version of this trap is better - White is playing sensible moves, and Black gets too eager to eat the d4 pawn, rather than this game, in which 16.g4? is a weakening move in a bad position.
    ... in which 16.g4? is a weakening move in a bad position.

    But that's it - a roll of the dice - a gamble, why else was g4 played?

    The joy it must have given the White player.

    One thing you safely say about Palynka - he does not use a box
  8. Standard member SwissGambit
    Caninus Interruptus
    19 Mar '09 22:06
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    ... in which 16.g4? is a weakening move in a bad position.

    But that's it - a roll of the dice - a gamble, why else was g4 played?

    The joy it must have given the White player.

    One thing you safely say about Palynka - he does [b]not
    use a box [/b]
    Admittedly, if White does not unbalance the position in some fashion, he will lose thanks to the 2-pawn deficit. From that perspective, he might as well give g4 a try.
  9. Standard member SwissGambit
    Caninus Interruptus
    19 Mar '09 22:10
    Originally posted by Mad Rook
    btw, in the Dutch, is it unusual for Black to castle kingside?
    Just the opposite, at least in the games I've seen.

    Castling Kingside puts the R behind the f-pawn, so he's ready for an ...f4 push at an opportune moment.
  10. 19 Mar '09 22:13
    This reminds me of an entertaining game I finished a few days ago:

  11. 19 Mar '09 22:27 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    I stumbled across this.

    I would loved to have seen Black's face when he saw 17.Bxh7+

    It's a wonderful trap that White played for. A classic.
    I know exactly what black was thinking -- I had a game against Dattu where a similar thing happened - except in my game it happened at the end of a series of exchanges that I thought would end up evenly - and suddenly there was this BxPch and I was thinking "what kind of weird sacrifice is this?" and soon after I realized that it was time to resign.

    in short, beware situations where your opponent has a piece in between the queens, and where your queen doesn't have any backup -- this is probably a relatively common "trap"
  12. 19 Mar '09 22:46 / 3 edits
    Game 5291608

    Here's me loosing to a 13xx player (rated lower currently) in a rather uneventful game. I sucked, he deserves the win. It was one of those things where you immediately see your queen being attacked but you decide to consider other moves instead. By the end of it all you make a move and forget that originally your queen was under attack.
    That'll show me
  13. 19 Mar '09 22:50
    You are correct.

    "this is probably a relatively common "trap"

    But it just caught me at the right moment - I laughed.

    You can almost feel the 'hope' that goes into g4 and then hear Black's
    bottom jaw banging off the keyboard.

    Sniggering at other player's mishaps is fun - there but for the
    grace of God....etc....etc.
  14. Standard member Raven69
    Different
    19 Mar '09 23:52
    Ha!
  15. Standard member Red Night
    RHP Prophet
    20 Mar '09 01:27
    That is funny!

    Thanks for sharing, GP.