This may not be very helpful, but I need to do something with my frustration.
A couple of weeks ago I started a game with a user named "lastcastle" (Game 1358950). After some 10 days of playing 38 moves the game was practically resolved. We both had 4 pawns and a knight, but I (black) also had a rook and one of my pawns was on the 7th rank with nothing to stop its promotion. Normally, white would resign at this point.
This was last Tuesday. Only problem was that I had to go abroad for a few days, and I was unable to connect to the net for this time. I turned on my vacation flag and messaged my opponents (something like "I appreciate your patience..."😉. When I returned, I found out to my astonishment that "lastcastle" had decided to claim the win (it was a 1day timeout with no timebank) on a game that he had clearly lost.
What would you say about that?!
Originally posted by assafpThis has come up dozens of times... It is his right to claim the win if you do not move for a day. You simply took too much time to make a move, and you and your opponent had agreed to the 1 day timeout/0 days timebank. It is not his fault that you had to go abroad for a few days...
This may not be very helpful, but I need to do something with my frustration.
A couple of weeks ago I started a game with a user named "lastcastle" (Game 1358950). After some 10 days of playing 38 moves the game was practically resolved. We both had 4 pawns and a knight, but I (black) also had a rook and one of my pawns was on the 7th rank with nothi ...[text shortened]... timeout with no timebank) on a game that he had clearly lost.
What would you say about that?!
Originally posted by assafpI would say you lost a chess game.
This may not be very helpful, but I need to do something with my frustration.
A couple of weeks ago I started a game with a user named "lastcastle" (Game 1358950). After some 10 days of playing 38 moves the game was practically resolved. We both had 4 pawns and a knight, but I (black) also had a rook and one of my pawns was on the 7th rank with nothi ...[text shortened]... timeout with no timebank) on a game that he had clearly lost.
What would you say about that?!
If you see a blind man trying to cross the street, you can help the man or you can go away.
If you go away, you didn't do anything aganist the law, but it's not the right thing to do.
It's the same with lastcastle. He just want to see his rating grow up, no matter what.
If you like to play chess, just enjoy the game, and don't worry about this things.
PS: and don't play again with lastcastle
Originally posted by assafpIt is considered bad sportsmanship to claim the win when you have your flag up, but there's no rule against it. You have to expect that sometimes when you go away.
This may not be very helpful, but I need to do something with my frustration.
A couple of weeks ago I started a game with a user named "lastcastle" (Game 1358950). After some 10 days of playing 38 moves the game was practically resolved. We both had 4 pawns and a knight, but I (black) also had a rook and one of my pawns was on the 7th rank with nothi ...[text shortened]... timeout with no timebank) on a game that he had clearly lost.
What would you say about that?!
Some tips to avoid being timed out:
1. Pretend you're a young female
2. Try not to be winning any games when you leave-opponents that know they're losing are probably more likely to claim the win.
3. Write a long vacation message-this is probably the only practical advice. If you explain to everyone where you're going, how long it'll be, how much you love them, etc. you establish a personal connnection.
Originally posted by MetalPiglastcastle isn't the one who decided to 'go away', now, is he?
If you see a blind man trying to cross the street, you can help the man or you can go away.
If you go away, you didn't do anything aganist the law, but it's not the right thing to do.
It's the same with lastcastle. He just want to see his rating grow up, no matter what.
🙄🙄
Originally posted by BigDoggProblemLike I said.
lastcastle isn't the one who decided to 'go away', now, is he?
🙄🙄
lastcastle did'nt do anything against the rules, but is not the right thing to do.
In another site maybe lastcastle win the game automatically, but here there is an option, and everyone have to choose: to be or not to be a gentleman.
Thanks all for the support.
Just to make it clear, I do understand that what my opponent did is perfectly legal. I'm just saying that under the circumstances it is bad sportsmanship.
More than anything else, I was just looking for a place to grump! So thanks again for being my support group
😀
Originally posted by MetalPigDoesn't being a gentleman include honoring the time limit that was agreed upon before the game started?!
Like I said.
lastcastle did'nt do anything against the rules, but is not the right thing to do.
In another site maybe lastcastle win the game automatically, but here there is an option, and everyone have to choose: to be or not to be a gentleman.
The only bad sportsmanship going on here is someone complaining about losing on time when they knowingly started a fast game. Whining about losses is neither gentlemanly nor sportsmanlike.
He would easily have lost , but din't forget hell , that place sure is waiting for him , unless you requested him kindly not to claim a win , he could do it legally but even if you kindly asked him and he still claimed the win , then he has lost his sportsmanship benefits and deserves to have the same done to him , if you feel anytime it is "not right" to do that , you can always send feedback to Russ the cow.
Originally posted by SicilianNajdorfWhat is bad sportsmanship about following the rules? He is allowed to claim the win when the time is up, it's that simple. I wish people would stop whining about this kind of stuff. It's not like it's their opponent's fault that they had to go away for a few days. Get over it.
He would easily have lost , but din't forget hell , that place sure is waiting for him , unless you requested him kindly not to claim a win , he could do it legally but even if you kindly asked him and he still claimed the win , then he has lost his sportsmanship benefits and deserves to have the same done to him , if you feel anytime it is "not right" to do that , you can always send feedback to Russ the cow.
Originally posted by schakuhrI wasn't meaning to write anymore, it's really not that important and I don't wish to grump too much. However, since you asked the question, I would like to make the point that in many games one can follow the rules and still behave in a manner which is considered bad sportsmanship.
What is bad sportsmanship about following the rules? He is allowed to claim the win when the time is up, it's that simple. I wish people would stop whining about this kind of stuff. It's not like it's their opponent's fault that they had to go away for a few days. Get over it.
Here is an example: In football (soccer), when a player is injured, the opposite team will often kick the ball out of bounce in order for that player to be treated. After the player is treated, his team will return the ball to the team that held it before the injury. Now, it is perfectly legal (I've seen it done once) for the team of the injured player not to return the ball. No one will get penalized for behaving this way, but it is considered bad sportsmanship.
Originally posted by assafpIt's just about how you put it. He could have reasoned that you used far too much time to think, and therefore deserving to lose on time. That's pretty logical.
I wasn't meaning to write anymore, it's really not that important and I don't wish to grump too much. However, since you asked the question, I would like to make the point that in many games one can follow the rules and still behave in a manner which is considered bad sportsmanship.
Here is an example: In football (soccer), when a player is injured, the ...[text shortened]... e ball. No one will get penalized for behaving this way, but it is considered bad sportsmanship.
Originally posted by assafpA lot of people have been stung while having their vacation flag up. Others don't like the way some people leave their vacation flag up the whole time.
I wasn't meaning to write anymore, it's really not that important and I don't wish to grump too much. However, since you asked the question, I would like to make the point that in many games one can follow the rules and still behave in a manner which is considered bad sportsmanship.
Here is an example: In football (soccer), when a player is injured, the ...[text shortened]... e ball. No one will get penalized for behaving this way, but it is considered bad sportsmanship.
Vacation flags on this site are for information purposes only. I don't consider it bad sportsmanship to claim a win, if your opponent doesn't move in the agreed time.
BTW: I've only ever seen your annecdote take place once in English football. I'm assuming you are referring to america where the win is everything. Anyway, the one time I saw it, was between Arsenal and Sheffield Utd, where Arsenal scored after Sheffield put the ball out for a throw so treatment could come on the field. The game had to be replayed.
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