22 Jan 06
I made what was an intuitive sacrifice.
Just finished this game where we played a tight game. I lost the initive, if i ever even had it?
It looks like i was doomed, but traded down to try to equalize in the endgame.
Anyone have similar games?
Game 1707546
22 Jan 06
Originally posted by GrandmousterThat's not a sac, it's an exchange.
I made what was an intuitive sacrifice.
Just finished this game where we played a tight game. I lost the initive, if i ever even had it?
It looks like i was doomed, but traded down to try to equalize in the endgame.
Anyone have similar games?
Game 1707546
22 Jan 06
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Originally posted by Sicilian Smaugmaybe instead of pxp on move 26, maybe BXB QxB and then PXP. Seems like you could keep the initive, with pigs on the 7th
This is quite an interesting one Game 1650161 Move 26 i offered my queen for rook and bishop. i saw that the end game was going to be at a disadvantage for me so i thought id give it a go. I got the draw, but my opponent missed an opportunity to win it 🙂
Forget that, missed QxR+...🙄
23 Jan 06
Originally posted by dottewellA sac is a sac. I traded a queen for a rook. In chess jargon its a sac.
...And "intuitive"? It doesn't take a whole lot of calculation...
It may have worked out to be even in the end, but the point is, i made a move based on intiuition, and not a lot of anaylsis.
I saw that i could win back the queen, and still be a pawn down. Thats the intuitive part. Instead of taking a "safe" route, i went for quick fireworks, and no guarentee of a draw. To me this seems like an idea, more then calculation.
Anyone else have some games they would like to share with the same theme?
23 Jan 06
1 edit
Originally posted by GrandmousterYou traded queen and rook for queen and rook,
A sac is a sac. I traded a queen for a rook. In chess jargon its a sac.
It may have worked out to be even in the end, but the point is, i made a move based on intiuition, and not a lot of anaylsis.
I saw that i could win back the queen, and still be a pawn down. Thats the intuitive part. Instead of taking a "safe" route, i went for quick fireworks, an ...[text shortened]... e then calculation.
Anyone else have some games they would like to share with the same theme?
It is stretching the definition of "sacrifice" to the very limit. I would not consider it a true sacrifice if you inevitably equalise the exchange the next move.
As to "I saw that I could win back the queen, and still be a pawn down. That's the intuitive part" - well, I don't know what to say, given that you have aspirations to a 2000-plus rating.
23 Jan 06
Originally posted by DeepThoughtVery nice! That is clever.
My opponent found a clever rook sacrifice to draw this one: Game 1243139
23 Jan 06
Originally posted by DeepThoughtIntresting, i guess the perp. By Knight checks draws.
My opponent found a clever rook sacrifice to draw this one: Game 1243139
23 Jan 06
Originally posted by GrandmousterJust noticed the game. Hasn't black got some winning tries left? Rc6 looks quite useful. Certainly in his position I'd have played and make you prove the draw. When a pawn up in those positions it's usually best to continue to play until the position is stone-dead drawn.
I made what was an intuitive sacrifice.
Just finished this game where we played a tight game. I lost the initive, if i ever even had it?
It looks like i was doomed, but traded down to try to equalize in the endgame.
Anyone have similar games?
Game 1707546
24 Jan 06
Originally posted by GrandmousterIn "dictionary jargon", intuitive means "the power or faculty of attaining to direct knowledge or cognition without evident rational thought and inference". So, if you calculated winning the Q back before playing QxR, then 'intuitive' is a poorly chosen word.
A sac is a sac. I traded a queen for a rook. In chess jargon its a sac.
It may have worked out to be even in the end, but the point is, i made a move based on intiuition, and not a lot of anaylsis.
I saw that i could win back the queen, and still be a pawn down. Thats the intuitive part.
24 Jan 06
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Originally posted by BigDoggProblemAgreed; and it is only a sac in the most strictly technical sense, if at all.
In "dictionary jargon", [b]intuitive means "the power or faculty of attaining to direct knowledge or cognition without evident rational thought and inference". So, if you calculated winning the Q back before playing QxR, then 'intuitive' is a poorly chosen word.[/b]
The position is not really better for white after the exchange than before, in my opinion.
I would agree the game is worth continuing for black.
24 Jan 06
Originally posted by BigDoggProblemummm, thats what i thought i did. No rational thought there.
In "dictionary jargon", [b]intuitive means "the power or faculty of attaining to direct knowledge or cognition without evident rational thought and inference". So, if you calculated winning the Q back before playing QxR, then 'intuitive' is a poorly chosen word.[/b]
Would you trade down? or play on with heavy pieces?