Advice to some players.

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The only move that probably actually is bad is 1. f3, and it's a total nightmare if someone plays it against you as there is no good result - a win is to be expected and any other result leaves you looking foolish: Game 2809197

Originally posted by DeepThought
The only move that probably actually is bad is 1. f3, and it's a total nightmare if someone plays it against you as there is no good result - a win is to be expected and any other result leaves you looking foolish: Game 2809197

That's partly your fault for getting into some kind of reversed French in which f2-f3 actually made sense. 😛

Originally posted by English Tal
There is nothing wrong whatsoever with 2. Bc4,..... but in the context of going for a quick mate I agree with you.
(John Nunn, then British Champ, played me once in a simul using this and talking afterwards suggested 2.Bc4 was most underrrated. I guess this still remains so....)

The bishops game is a solid opening. I prefer 2... Nf6 against it but it is complex and can easily transpose into a two knights/fried liver game. there is a class A player at my club who plays it all the time with great success.

I used to play 1. e4 e5 2. Bc4 Nf6 3. Qe2 when I was younger. It's pretty solid.

Originally posted by English Tal
There is nothing wrong whatsoever with 2. Bc4,..... but in the context of going for a quick mate I agree with you.
(John Nunn, then British Champ, played me once in a simul using this and talking afterwards suggested 2.Bc4 was most underrrated. I guess this still remains so....)

Classical opening theory would suggest that it is better to bring the knights out before bishops, but I would agree that 2.Bc4 in a double-kingpawn game is fairly sound and safe, and has potential for fairly powerful play.

I mention it, because when I see it played, I'm on the lookout for an early queen sortie, and usually reply with Nc6. In my experience, however, it's more common for people trying for the "four-mover" mate to move the queen out first, which I believe to be a blunder.

In the trenches most openings are playable. I do surprisingly well with the St George. Both in casual OTB and on the internet. I know absolutely nothing about the theory of the opening however. In corr you're far less likely to get away with anything too unsound. I wouldn't try the Omega for example.

I think that it was Tartakower who quipped, "Any opening is good enough if its reputation is bad enough."

Don't forget the English Opening (1.c4)! 😀

Originally posted by Dutch Defense
Don't forget the English Opening (1.c4)! 😀

What's wrong with the English?😠

I think it's funny that the ECO for that game is "B00".
(Unorthodox KP openings)

Dont forget the Alekhine and Dutch, it seems people I run into always under estimate these gems (not that Im perfect with them or anything)

and speaking of the Dutch, anyone wana play a game?

Originally posted by Korch
I would recommend not to be arrogant against opening which you dont understand. I mean not only unortodoux openings like Grob (1.g4) or Latvians gambit (1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f5), but also some classics openings (like French) which some people misunderstands, showing their arrogance and ignorance. 😠

Thank you!

Originally posted by DeepThought
The only move that probably actually is bad is 1. f3, and it's a total nightmare if someone plays it against you as there is no good result - a win is to be expected and any other result leaves you looking foolish: Game 2809197

There is nothing wrong with f3...I know of a few good players who played it, and with success too!

Originally posted by Raven69
Thank you!

But don`t get me wrong - I don`t think these openings as the best, but most of them are much better than their reputation. 🙂

Originally posted by Korch
But don`t get me wrong - I don`t think these openings as the best, but most of them are much better than their reputation. 🙂

Yes I know. 🙂