Well done, better late then never. I don't think we should complain, justice was served. Also, I think they only ban people if you send a fair play ticket, if no one ever sent one that explains why he never got banned. I think banning popular players like him is a great way for the site to gain credibility. Again, well done no1marauder and RHP.
I don't understand, Ronald Weyerstrass is a dutch IM of correspondence chess, so someone must have been abusing his name if the Weyerstrass on here actually was cheating!
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessplayer?pid=78126
He was a dutch champion of correspondence chess.
Originally posted by GatussoI think you will find he is one and the same person.
I don't understand, Ronald Weyerstrass is a dutch IM of correspondence chess, so someone must have been abusing his name if the Weyerstrass on here actually was cheating!
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessplayer?pid=78126
He was a dutch champion of correspondence chess.
That is the reason why it took so long.
In these cases you have to be 100% sure.
But having said that. Perhaps he got banned for another reason.
Originally posted by greenpawn34It may be that RHP is less willing to ban a known titled player than other sites. Weyerstrass may only have been banned now because he doesn't intend to return, thus avoiding any of the rumpus that followed chess.com's banning of Natalia Pogostick.
I think you will find he is one and the same person.
That is the reason why it took so long.
In these cases you have to be 100% sure.
But having said that. Perhaps he got banned for another reason.
Originally posted by no1marauderProbably because he has left the site, no longer appears in the listing of top players due to his inactivity and it was felt his banning may not have been noticed.
Weyerstrass has been banned.
I presented evidence and analysis fingering him as a cheater in August 2005 and I know some of the Game Mods have believed he was an engine user for a long time. I wonder why now this action was FINALLY taken.
Which all the begs the question, why bother? Same story with sealion. Shutting the gate after the horse has bolted? What is the point in permitting all the damage to take place, and then only taking action once the dust has settled?
The optimist in me would like to believe this is a renewed commitment on behalf of the Admins to apply zero tolerance. The pessimist in me has tape over his mouth.
Originally posted by GatussoI think the IM title concern begs the question, from a logical perspective-- the IM title would only be a mitigating consideration if the governing body that issues the title also has anti-cheating/anti-engine processes in place.
I don't understand, Ronald Weyerstrass is a dutch IM of correspondence chess, so someone must have been abusing his name if the Weyerstrass on here actually was cheating!
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessplayer?pid=78126
He was a dutch champion of correspondence chess.
In other words, if someone is going to cheat, it is probable that they will cheat anywhere they think they won't get caught.
I think this kind of issue may well kill top-level correspondence chess, except among friends. It is too easy to cheat, apparently, if getting caught is not enough to dissuade you.
And if a person is accused because their moves match engine moves, and the proliferation of strong chess engines continues at its current pace, pretty soon it will be hard to play a good move that doesn't match some computer somewhere.
Originally posted by DiophantusIt was Yelena Dembo not Pogonina.
It may be that RHP is less willing to ban a known titled player than other sites. Weyerstrass may only have been banned now because he doesn't intend to return, thus avoiding any of the rumpus that followed chess.com's banning of Natalia Pogostick.
Originally posted by avalanchethecatMy point was that, for all we know, it was the engine that was the IM, not the player. Titles are only worth as much as the governing body is willing to invest in the integrity of them.
What I can't figure out is why an IM would use an engine?
I'm not passing judgment, as I do not know enough to do so, so all I am saying is that a title is not an automatic free pass in a situation like this.