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Game 1854351

I've a good idea of the moves where I went wrong, but just looking for other people's thoughts.

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D

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Originally posted by Ragnorak
Game 1854351

I've a good idea of the moves where I went wrong, but just looking for other people's thoughts.

Cheers,

D
Well 1.e4 stikes me as an error for starters.. 😛

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I had a brief look and I like 15 Nxf7 instead of 15 g3. I think you just win a pawn there.
Anyway, why don't you check the game with a computer? Probably there are many errors there on both sides.

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Originally posted by vipiu
I had a brief look and I like 15 Nxf7 instead of 15 g3. I think you just win a pawn there.
Anyway, why don't you check the game with a computer? Probably there are many errors there on both sides.
Nxf7 doesn't win a pawn, as far as I can see.

I prefer to get human opinion than a computers. Anyway, I have already run it through Fritz.

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Originally posted by Ragnorak
Nxf7 doesn't win a pawn, as far as I can see.

I prefer to get human opinion than a computers. Anyway, I have already run it through Fritz.

D
you are right, but I still do not like g3. What is Fritz suggesting there ?

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Originally posted by vipiu
you are right, but I still do not like g3. What is Fritz suggesting there ?
It recommends that I retreat the Knight to Nf3. I don't think a computer would understand my plan (possibly, probably faulty) at that position. I was hoping to sac the knight to open up the h file, so my queen and rook (with support from the bishops)could infiltrate into the king's position.

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I'm having trouble getting past the odd way black played the opening. I believe blacks position was too solid for your kingside attack to work, and you should have put more effort into doing something about your c-pawn early in the game.

11. Re1? where is this guy going? I can only assume this is the start of a rook lift, but you latter decided to pawn storm, effectively wasting this move.
13. Ng5 seems overly complicated. I think that h5 should suffice when you can follow up with Qc1 intending to sac the bishop.

g3 just seems to be a wasted move. perhaps Qh5 instead.

Latter, your play with the knight was excellent. Once you stopped the b-pawn Iwould have given it a few more moves to see if you could advance the d-pawn and create some winning chances.

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Originally posted by zebano
I'm having trouble getting past the odd way black played the opening. I believe blacks position was too solid for your kingside attack to work, and you should have put more effort into doing something about your c-pawn early in the game.

11. Re1? where is this guy going? I can only assume this is the start of a rook lift, but you latter decided to pawn st ...[text shortened]... ven it a few more moves to see if you could advance the d-pawn and create some winning chances.
The position in the opening may have lead to a classical greek gift type setup. All of my moves upto 12. h4 were aimed at this, including 11. Re1, when I hoped to be able to involve the rook in the attack on the king, via e3.

13. Ng5 was probably a bit of hopeful chess alright, but I really wanted to open up his kingside castled position, as all my pieces were trained on that side.

15. g3: as well as the reasons I gave above, I forgot to mention that I was still hoping my opponent would capture the knight, whereby Kg2 would free the back rank for my rooks.

Thanks for the comments.

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From the black side of things, I think black could have significantly improved his position with 12... f5!
when
exf6, Rxf6, Bg5, Rf7 should hold and gives him a chance to equalize with e5 at a latter point while utilizing the half open f-file now (saccing the exchange on f3 should be considered if white moves his queen).

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Originally posted by zebano
I'm having trouble getting past the odd way black played the opening. I believe blacks position was too solid for your kingside attack to work, and you should have put more effort into doing something about your c-pawn early in the game.
Yes I agree, all your pieces wern't working together for an attack, and you under-estimated blacks options....black had a solid position on the king side. You really just tried a swindle with the knight move, which is a bad idea if you're not losing. idk I didn't like the whole opening so it's hard for me to give a good suggestion as to a better set-up -.-

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Originally posted by Ragnorak
The position in the opening may have lead to a classical greek gift type setup. All of my moves upto 12. h4 were aimed at this, including 11. Re1, when I hoped to be able to involve the rook in the attack on the king, via e3.

13. Ng5 was probably a bit of hopeful chess alright, but I really wanted to open up his kingside castled position, as all my piec ...[text shortened]... the knight, whereby Kg2 would free the back rank for my rooks.

Thanks for the comments.

D
I also stopped at 11. re1. It still seems a waste (and I'm pretty sure I've played this move before against the French). Better to push the h pawn and get your king out of the way.

Going back a bit earlier at 9. 0-0 what about getting your plan going sooner and play bc2 or h4 instead? After about move 12. I'm not sure the plan has much of a chance.

I had a similar plan in this French game but went with the g4 pawn Game 3065020 Okay, the situation was a bit different.

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