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Originally posted by ChesswickYou missed a curly bracket. [EDIT] 2
Anyway, I updated the PGN so that the comments use the standard format. I was able to easily import it into SCID this way. No need to bold the moves, etc. after doing so.
[Event "Xmas 2006 Grand Split II"]
[Site "http://www.playtheimmortalgame.com"]
[Date "2006.12.17"]
[EndDate "2006.12.30"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Quirine"]
[Black "ItsYouThatIAdore"]
[WhiteRating "1834"]
[BlackRating "1938"]
[Result "0-1"]
[GameId "2900765"]
{ The game starts out almost exactly as all my games when i am replying to d4, that is i played the queens indian... }
1. d4 Ng8f6 2. Ng1f3 e6 3. c4 b6 4. g3 Bc8b7 5. Bf1g2 Bf8b4
{ I play this in an attempt to develop all my pieces before white. In the Queens Indian white grasps a strong hold on the center, i always feel that if i can somehow get that extra development ill be able to put strain on the center before my opponent can establish themself. }
6. Bc1d2 Qd8e7
7. O-O O-O 8. Qd1b3 Bb4xd2 9. Nb1xd2 d6 10. Rf1e1
{ I was playing straight from my database at this point until white played this move, (I actually looked into another database and found one game where white wins from this variation [1993. 12. ?? Stockholm, Stockhold op Round 0, eco e16 Lappalainen (white) vs Safholm, Sten 1-0] }
Nb8d7
{ I simply continued to develop my pieces, hoping to play c5 to try and establish a presence in the center. }
11. e4 c5 12. d5 e5 13. Nf3h4 g6
{ I figured g6 to be a sound move since whites dark square bishop was off the board (I do not like to promote early pawn movement in front of the king, it creates way to many weaknesses, but in this case i feel this is a safe move)...my main worry at this point was a possible f4, but based on the position of the knight i knew i had a few moves before he could possibly play it. }
14. Bg2h3 { I like this move by Quirine, if provided a valuable square for his knight on g2 and reiforced f4...which i didnt think would come so quickly. The only real positive i seen for myself was the ability to bring my light squared bishop back into the game and possibly trade off. }
Bb7c8 15. Nh4g2 Nd7b8 16. Bh3xc8 Rf8xc8
{ At this point i think i have equalized the game, and i set out to do what i felt was my most important objective, build a strong defensive structure and stop white from completely dominating the center. I have weaknesses on f5 from a possible pawn push, but because of his piece placement he could not offer a threat to my king side until much later in the game...this is where and I still think that a queen side push is my best option. I could put pressure on the c4 pawn and possible gain some strength in the center for the end game. }
17. f4 Nb8d7 18. Qb3d3
{ Once again quirine makes a nice move here, and puts more pressure on the f5 square, possibly looking to push it in the near future... }
a6 {I continued to set out my objective of breaking the c4 pawn off.}
19. Nd2f3 {Puts more pressure on my center...}
Rc8e8 {but i think this move gives me a lot of counter in the center..(20. fxe5 nxe5 21. nxe5 Qxe5...now his center is nothing, and he has weaknesses on e4 c4 and eventually d5) instead quirine played }
20. Nf3d2 { i think quirine should have possibly pushed the pawn here instead of just moving his knight back basically lossing him the initiative and I gained an extra move. }
Ra8b8 { Simply to help my push on the b-file, i assumed that White would have played a4 here but he didnt...} 21. Re1e3 b5 22. b3 Rb8b6 {simply to double my rooks on the b-file and set up for one heck of a ram if possible.. }
23. cxb5???? { I think this is a really questionnable move for white...this allows me to put more pressure on the center in the future and opens the game up for me when i was, although defensively, pinned down not to mention the potential for a passed pawn on the c file (i was thinking more end game at this point during the game)... }
axb5 24. a4 {i think here white's tactics become obvious, he is looking for some sort of push down the a column forcing a passed pawn... }
exf4 25. gxf4 bxa4 26. bxa4 Rb6b4!!! {I think this is a very strong move since it puts more pressure on whites center and attacks the pawn on A stopping Quirine from reinforcing with his rook to E1...}
27. a5 {White feels he has choosen the lesser of two evils here by trying to take advantage of his passed pawn on the A column...}
Nf6xe4 {I felt that i had enough protection in the center and meanwhile i could still easily stop quirine from pushing his pawn...i think this is where Quirine over estiminated his pawn push and didnt realize that his center was about to fall apart and the game with it.}
28. a6 f5 {simple tactics here, i just wanted to protect the knight so that i could swing protection over to a8 to stop his push...} 29. a7 Nd7b6 30. Qd3a6 {Once again i think white is overestimating his push and the simple play of Ra8 puts white in a lot of trouble not to mention all his pieces are beginning to hang in the center...}
Re8a8 {My position is now far stronger then whites...my center is secure and his pawn isnt going no wheres...he has weaknesses now on d5 and his over extended pawn on a7...not to mention my rook on b4 is very active and white has no legitimate way of removing it without hurting himself (and his rook and knight are now in trouble}
31. Ng2e1 Nb6xd5 {This is where i start picking apart his weaknesses, in my opinion the game is lost here, but he fights on...as he should since there is a lot of pieces and play and if i dont pay attention his pawn on the A column could punish me in the end game...Whites main problem is the two knights are now squarely focused on his rook and not to mention his hanging knight now...white has to play desperate now}
32. Qa6c6??? {very questionable and bad move, i understand the idea, looking to put pressure on both the rook and knight but this gives me an extremely stronger reply}
Qe7b7!! {basically forces the exchange and puts both rooks on the a pawn while still attacking the rook and also the hanging knight!! almost too perfect...White is left in the worse positon possible here... From here the game is pretty simple.}
33. Qc6xb7 Rb4xb7 34. Re3b3 Rb7xa7 35. Ra1xa7 Ra8xa7
36. Nd2c4 Nd5xf4 37. Rb3b6 Ra7d7 38. Ne1f3 Kg8g7 39. Kg1f1 d5 40. Nc4e5 Rd7a7 41. h4 Ra7a1 42. Nf3e1 h6 43. Rb6b7 Kg7f6 44. Ne5d7 Kf6e6 45. Nd7f8 Ke6e5 0-1[/b]
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Originally posted by ItsYouThatIAdoreThanks for that, IYIA.
[Event "Xmas 2006 Grand Split II"]
[Site "http://www.playtheimmortalgame.com"]
[Date "2006.12.17"]
[EndDate "2006.12.30"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Quirine"]
[Black "ItsYouThatIAdore"]
[WhiteRating "1834"]
[BlackRating "1938"]
[Result "0-1"]
[GameId "2900765"]
The game starts out almost exactly as all my games when i am replying to d4, that i ...[text shortened]... clear about a move i made, let me know...ill explain it in more detail...
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Originally posted by ItsYouThatIAdorefirst I'll issue a level orange patzer-analysis-warning! 🙂 that being out of the way, I'll give it a shot.
..instead quirine played
20. Nf3d2 i think quirine should have possibly pushed the pawn here instead of just moving his knight back basically lossing him the initiative and I gained an extra move.
I don't think you got equality until whites 19.Nf3 which backfired with 19...Re8 threatening exf and winnind white e-pawn with discovered attack. your pieces are nowhere to force a serious attack, so you'll just wait what white does. if I play a superior player, I'll throw in everything I have, instead of waiting for him to grind me down.
undeveloping 15...Nb8 seems just silly when you have to get the pieces to the kingside somehow. but I guess you just did it to exchange bishops and not trying to hop to queenside? (it looks like a KID so why not play like it, first 15...Nh5 followed by the rest of the gang and break through...)
anything but 20.Nd2 here drops a pawn and opens the file black has most of it's muscle on. there would be the problem with the queen, but it's workable with ...f5 after ...Nxe4 I think.
22...Rb6 doubling the rooks... well, I think you have a better attack on the kingside, which dies after you take the other rook off from there.
but of course, after 23.cxb you suddenly do have an attack on queenside as well. if quirine would've just sat tight he would've had no problems on queenside.
27...Nxe4 was a mistake, I think. If quirine had chosen to exchange everything on e4, you'd be left with the knight stopping the passed rook pawn, playing essentially a piece down.
on the flipside, 28.a6, not exchanging on e4 is probably what cost quirine the game. ...f5 just wrecks any counterplay, and black has all the resources left to stop the a-pawn. 29.a7 loses another tempo for nothing. after that, you just decide whether you'll stop the passer with Nb6 or Ra8, and I think the latter was better, as it opens up the possibility of exchanging rooks on a7 and ramming the queen to backrank with a check
"in my opinion." 🙂
Originally posted by wormwoodI dont play the KID, and my theory knowledge is on it, possibly exchanging the center could have saved the position, you may be right, ill go through the game and see if what i can come up with
first I'll issue a level orange patzer-analysis-warning! 🙂 that being out of the way, I'll give it a shot.
I don't think you got equality until whites 19.Nf3 which backfired with 19...Re8 threatening exf and winnind white e-pawn with discovered attack. your pieces are nowhere to force a serious attack, so you'll just wait what white does. if I play a ...[text shortened]... oks on a7 and ramming the queen to backrank with a check
"in my opinion." 🙂