This much maligned opening gets the bad rap. Sure enough in the RHP games explorer, white wins rather overwhelmingly from this position with black to move:
Argh, I suppose I've gone and made another thread on openings. Was looking at some Philidor's after seeing again the Morphy Opera game, wondering about ways to not lose so much time in developing for black. It looks like the problem is moving the c8 bishop to g4? Knights first, and get ready to castle instead maybe better...
This position looks pretty playable to me for black.
Now black is looking at Nf6, threatens Qa5, or Ba6 messing with the white castle. Still I find the f8 bishop slow to get out - I guess g6 and fianchetto for him. Still a nice big center looks possible no?
Aron Nimzovich analyzed this opening a lot in My System. He liked to put the f8 Bishop back on f8 after castling but without necessarily fianchettoing.
Originally posted by Exuma Argh, I suppose I've gone and made another thread on openings. Was looking at some Philidor's after seeing again the Morphy Opera game, wondering about ways to not lose so much time in developing for black. It looks like the problem is moving the c8 bishop to g4? Knights first, and get ready to castle instead maybe better...
This position looks pretty pl ...[text shortened]... or black.
Originally posted by greenpawn34 It is an OK opening The Pihilidor I keep forgetting I know this opening..
It is one of those I have an excellent score with as Black.
You really have to feel sorry for this guy, Sepia Tint, he came so close.
Sepia Tint - truthinpositions. RHP 2007
[pgn]
[Event "August 2007 Octet VIII 1650+"]
[Site "http://www.timeforchess.com"]
[Date "2007.0 f6 Qxb5 {if 15....QxQ then 16.Bxd7 is mate} 16. Qxb5 gxf6 17. Qxd7[/pgn]
4. dxe5... dxe5... 5.Qxd8+... Kxd8 6. Nc3...Bb4 7. Bg5+...f6 8. O-O-O+... Bd7 9. Bd2 (for example)
(If I made mistakes in these posts, I am sorry, I did them from memory 🙁 )
Now black is looking at Nf6, threatens Qa5, or Ba6 messing with the white castle. Still I find the f8 bishop slow to get out - I guess g6 and fianchetto for him. Still a nice big center looks possible no?
without any calculation of variations 0-0 looks like a strong pawn sacrifice(if black can in fact hold on to the pawn).
Originally posted by greenpawn34 It is an OK opening The Pihilidor I keep forgetting I know this opening..
It is one of those I have an excellent score with as Black.
You really have to feel sorry for this guy, Sepia Tint, he came so close.
Sepia Tint - truthinpositions. RHP 2007
[pgn]
[Event "August 2007 Octet VIII 1650+"]
[Site "http://www.timeforchess.com"]
[Date "2007.0 ...[text shortened]... f6 Qxb5 {if 15....QxQ then 16.Bxd7 is mate} 16. Qxb5 gxf6 17. Qxd7[/pgn]
You are aware that the first 14 moves are from the Morphy - Count Isouard game, aren't you? Black's 14th deviation wasn't a great success here either, lol.
Oops!n didn't see the note. Yes, I guess most experienced players here on RHP know the Morphy game. I think it has appeared in several threads before as well.
28 Aug '10 21:52
Attacking the Philidor Defense
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