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Bb5 or Ba4?

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3rd move for white after 1 e4 and 2 Nf3, do you prefer the tactical Bc4 or the positional Bb5?

I like Bb5 simply for tempo reasons....

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Originally posted by baconfats
3rd move for white after 1 e4 and 2 Nf3, do you prefer the tactical Bc4 or the positional Bb5?

I like Bb5 simply for tempo reasons....
They're both tactical and positional

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Originally posted by baconfats
3rd move for white after 1 e4 and 2 Nf3, do you prefer the tactical Bc4 or the positional Bb5?

I like Bb5 simply for tempo reasons....
3.Bc4 every time, because after
1.e4...e5
2.Nf3...Nc6
3.Bc4

3...Bc5 then
4.b4

or after
3...Nf6 then
4.Ng5

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Originally posted by Squelchbelch
3.Bc4 every time, because after
1.e4...e5
2.Nf3...Nc6
3.Bc4

3...Bc5 then
4.b4

or after
3...Nf6 then
4.Ng5
Both moves that allow black to be at least equal or not better if he is prepared...however those are okay openings for otb games

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Originally posted by Restless Soul
Both moves that allow black to be at least equal or not better if he is prepared...however those are okay openings for otb games
I think people are generally better versed in the Ruy Lopez though & I'm far more familiar with the cut-throat Evans Gambit or F.L.A.

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Originally posted by Squelchbelch
I think people are generally better versed in the Ruy Lopez though & I'm far more familiar with the cut-throat Evans Gambit or F.L.A.
its only fried liver (score!!) if black is brave enough to take on d5 with the f6 knight...

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Originally posted by baconfats
3rd move for white after 1 e4 and 2 Nf3, do you prefer the tactical Bc4 or the positional Bb5?

I like Bb5 simply for tempo reasons....
1. e4 d5 2. Nf3 (Tennison gambit) dxe 3. Bc4/Bb5??? how about Ng5?

Or are you assuming that black is allowed to play nothing besides
1... e5 and 2... Nc6 😀 in which case I prefer 3. d4

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Originally posted by baconfats
3rd move for white after 1 e4 and 2 Nf3, do you prefer the tactical Bc4 or the positional Bb5?

I like Bb5 simply for tempo reasons....
2.f4! 😀

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Originally posted by zebano
1. e4 d5 2. Nf3 (Tennison gambit) dxe 3. Bc4/Bb5??? how about Ng5?

Or are you assuming that black is allowed to play nothing besides
1... e5 and 2... Nc6 😀 in which case I prefer 3. d4
I'm assuming black to play e5 and Nc6, yes.

And yes, d4 is a fine move at 3, just was wondering which of the two bishop moves you prefer...

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Originally posted by baconfats
I'm assuming black to play e5 and Nc6, yes.

And yes, d4 is a fine move at 3, just was wondering which of the two bishop moves you prefer...
3. Nc3

I generally prefer the Ruy and would use it if I had the time and ability to learn it properly and effectively play it

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Originally posted by YUG0slav
3. Nc3

I generally prefer the Ruy and would use it if I had the time and ability to learn it properly and effectively play it
Yawn.

BTW: Not all lines of the Ruy are theoretical, and when I've played it I feel like my limited knowledge is more than those at my level.

5.Qe2 is an excellent way to avoid the closed variation theory.

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Originally posted by baconfats
3rd move for white after 1 e4 and 2 Nf3, do you prefer the tactical Bc4 or the positional Bb5?

I like Bb5 simply for tempo reasons....
There must be a reason why most GMs prefer Bb5 to Bc4.

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Originally posted by Dragon Fire
There must be a reason why most GMs prefer Bb5 to Bc4.
Bb5 leads to more complicated positions.

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Originally posted by Korch
Bb5 leads to more complicated positions.
and more complicated means:

i. harder to play; and
ii. better winning chances for white.

Bc4 being simplier gives black better drawing chances and, therefore, tends to be avoided at the higher levels, unless of course as white you are happy with a draw when as it will involve less complications a draw should be simple.

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Originally posted by baconfats
I'm assuming black to play e5 and Nc6, yes.

And yes, d4 is a fine move at 3, just was wondering which of the two bishop moves you prefer...
I've not played either line in almost 10 years, but I do prefer the Roy, exchange variation.