Bobby Fischer was a chess genius. His IQ was estimated to be somewhere in the 180 range. I think he was a very lonely person, because he was so intelligent he could not associate with anyone in the world- to him, everyone else was a moron, and the way he reacted to this world of isolation is not surprising to me. I'm not justifying any of the terrible things he said, but at the same time I can't help but feeling sorry for him- his childhood was fatherless and poor, he had been forced to leave the country of his birth, he never had a good relationship with his mother, and never got married- he lived a hard life. RIP, Bobby Fischer. The world will remember you as a lunatic and anti-semitic, but also as the genius who planted the seed for worldwide chess to bloom. Rest In Peace.
one once said that the Earth is rotating around the Sun...people at that time said he is crazy, can not be right, and the inquisition burned him alive...maybe he was a genious, and the people in his time wee not able to understand him....
another one that also did some "crazy statements" -maybe not as crazy as Galileo Galilei for his times- and so many of you want to burn him even he is dead...
only the history can judge right...only the time will tell
Originally posted by vipiuAre you saying that history will prove that his anti-semitic comments were true?
one once said that the Earth is rotating around the Sun...people at that time said he is crazy, can not be right, and the inquisition burned him alive...maybe he was a genious, and the people in his time wee not able to understand him....
another one that also did some "crazy statements" -maybe not as crazy as Galileo Galilei for his times- and so many of you ...[text shortened]... t to burn him even he is dead...
only the history can judge right...only the time will tell
Originally posted by PsychoPawnI will rephrase your question:
Are you saying that history will prove that his anti-semitic comments were true?
year 1640:
"Are you saying that the Sun is in the center of the Universe and the Solar System ?"
How can I say that the history will prove this or that ? I have no idea about the future, I just live in the present...
Robert James Fischer was Jewish descent...reason for his bitterness toward Jews was the unavailability of his Jewish mother...and his Jewish father was not much better...both were involved in high level careers in Biophysics and mathematics, both were PhDs...Bobby Fischer inherited their brains...scored an IQ of 180...certainly Bobby Fischer was the better known USA wunderkind of the chessworld, but we have another brilliant USA player, GM Larry Evans, who played 61 games against Bobby Fischer and won many, many games...a book came out by Larry Evans, titled 61 games with Fischer...get it soon...look it up on Google. Saw it in USCF website. Bobby Fischer came from the same high school and class with Barbra Streisand, a Jewish actress in NYC...Like Tom Cruise got into Scientology, Bobby Fischer got hooked into Herbert Armstrong and Garner Ted Armstrong and gave of his chess winnings over $64,000 to the World Tomorrow...Plain Truth...and then learned that Garner Ted got in trouble in extramarital affairs...then got out of that religion with bitterness. His life was fraught with disappointments, but ended his last days with a marriage with an Asian girl of 22 and had a child...and began to have kidney trouble which took his life with kidney failure. Because of his relationship with his beloved Filipino wife, he wanted a Catholic burial...rest in peace, Bobby...we are going miss you.
Originally posted by vipiuThat's not a rephrasing of my question.
I will rephrase your question:
year 1640:
"Are you saying that the Sun is in the center of the Universe and the Solar System ?"
How can I say that the history will prove this or that ? I have no idea about the future, I just live in the present...
The difference is Bobby Fischer's statements are demonstrably false, prejudicial and stupid.
Gallileo's were not.
Can you see the difference? Unless we go back to 1940's Germany's governing system, his statements won't be seen as anything but the crap they are.
Originally posted by PsychoPawnstill, it is a perspective...
That's not a rephrasing of my question.
The difference is Bobby Fischer's statements are demonstrably false, prejudicial and stupid.
Gallileo's were not.
Can you see the difference? Unless we go back to 1940's Germany's governing system, his statements won't be seen as anything but the crap they are.
ask an american about what he said and he might say he said only stupid things...ask an arab or a russian and he might say he was right...different people-different perspectives
if you ask me, I would say that I do not care what he said and I relate him only with his chess and I admire him for that and I think he was a great person...
Edit: P.S. By the way, don't you think that in his time Galileo's statements were considered demonstrably false, prejudicial and stupid in his time ?
Originally posted by vipiuFischer can and should be admired for his chess ability and his accomplishments within the chess realm.
still, it is a perspective...
ask an american about what he said and he might say he said only stupid things...ask an arab or a russian and he might say he was right...different people-different perspectives
if you ask me, I would say that I do not care what he said and I relate him only with his chess and I admire him for that and I think he was a great p ...[text shortened]... Galileo's statements were considered demonstrably false, prejudicial and stupid in his time ?
His accomplishments outside that realm are, well, negligible and his racist comments almost ruined his legacy (that is if they haven't already).
Most heros are not perfect by any stretch. Winston Churchill had at times made some pretty racist comments.
There's nothing wrong with admiring Fischer for his chess ability or Winston Churchill for his amazing leadership in WW2, but we should acknowledge and remember their faults.
In Galileo's time his statements probably were thought of as stupid, but they weren't demostrably false. I'm not sure if they were considered prejudicial since his statements had nothing to do with race or religion.
The key is that Galileo actually had factual evidence to back himself up even Copernicus had predated him and said the same thing - that the earth revolved around the sun.
Fischer's prejudicial comments are nothing new under the sun- he hasn't said anything that others haven't so he didn't even break even close to new ground with that respect.