Originally posted by maggoteerThe piece is pinned because his king would be captured *on the next
I haven't actually ever seen this, so I wonder if its legal.
Can you move your king into a check if the checking piece is pinned to
the
other king? Ie it's not really a check since the other piece can't move.
But I
don't think I've ever seen it done.
what's the rule folks?
move* if he moves his piece away. If he moves his piece away to
capture the opponent's king, the game is already won, so there will be
no next move, and his king will be safe. That's the reasoning behind
this.
Rein
Originally posted by maggoteerLeaving aside the fact that you can never move your king into check think about the logic of it. Even though he is pinned your King is taken first so game over before his King can be captured by you.
I haven't actually ever seen this, so I wonder if its legal.
Can you move your king into a check if the checking piece is pinned to the
other king? Ie it's not really a check since the other piece can't move. But I
don't think I've ever seen it done.
what's the rule folks?
In Blitz this can happen when the capture of the offending King ends the game.
Well there is one interesting twist to this:
In the blitz tournaments that I've played in the rules state that an illegal move loses the game. They do not state that the king can be taken.
I have seen many cases where someone failed to move out of check (or moved their king into check) and the other player took their king. Taking someone's king is not a legal move in chess and so this means that both players have made an illegal move and so should lose the game!
Something else happened to a friend of mine in a recent blitz tournament. He threatened his opponents queen with his knight, and actually uncovered a discovered check, which neither he nor his opponent noticed. His opponent moved his queen and my friend then played a check. At this point he realised that his opponent was already in check! To make things simple the players decided that they should call it a draw, but I have no idea what the correct result should have been.
In the same round I beat the British Champion (*) when she moved her king into check in an equal position. As I knew the rules I immediately claimed the game rather than capturing her king. If looks could kill that would have been the last game of chess I ever played.
(*) OK, if you want to be picky it was the British under 8 Champion.
Originally posted by Fat LadyBut isn't it like this in blitz:
Well there is one interesting twist to this:
In the blitz tournaments that I've played in the rules state that an illegal move loses the game. They do not state that the king can be taken.
I have seen many cases where someone failed to move out of check (or moved their king into check) and the other player took their king. Taking someone's king is no ...[text shortened]... f chess I ever played.
(*) OK, if you want to be picky it was the British under 8 Champion.
Player A makes an illegal move and hits the clock, then player B makes a leagal move and hits the clock. The result is that player B has accepted the illegal move and therefore the game will continue, even if in a later stage (next move or later) points this out. He has to point out the illegal move before he is doing his next move in order to clame a win! (?)
In normal (long-)chess there is normal rules.
Originally posted by Fat LadyAccording to the USCF's rules:
In the blitz tournaments that I've played in the rules state that an illegal move loses the game. They do not state that the king can be taken.
7. Define a win.
a. A game is won by the player: 1) who has mated his opponent's king; 2) whose
opponent resigns; 3) whose opponent's flag falls first, at any time before the
game is otherwise ended, provided he points it out and neutralizes the clock
while his own flag is still up and that he still has mating material; 4) who, after an
illegal move, takes the opponent's king or stops the clock; 5) an illegal move
doesn't negate a players right to claim on time, provided he does so prior to his
opponent's claim of an illegal move. If the claims are simultaneous the player
who made an illegal move loses.
I had an interesting postion in a game I've played here not too long ago. It had to do with using a pinned piece to support a checkmate. I wasn't sure if it was possible, so I repositioned my king to unpin the piece and checkmated a couple of turns later.
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I didn't want to chance losing my queen. It seems that a pinned piece can support a checkmate, but I thought I'd ask here just to make sure. Could I have checkmated my opponent using the pinned bishop to support my queen?