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    19 May '11 12:262 edits
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    I'm watching it to

    http://kazan2011.fide.com/live-games.html

    We are here - White has just played 14.Bf4-g5
    Time left White: 1Hour 44 - Black 1 hour

    [fen]r1bq1rk1/pp3ppp/5n2/1N2p1B1/1PPb4/P4Q2/5PPP/2R1KB1R b K - 0 14[/fen]
    This has the making of being an interesting game.
    Has Grischuk change tactics and not gone for the lottery of Blitz play?
    t be considered.

    Edit: Gelfland has played 14...Re8 instead of 14...e5. OK I'll shut up.
    Lol, if you watch it in Russian you get occasional Russian lady singing songs between
    long thinks and lots of Russian analysis. I think your move ...e4 was according to the
    analysts, better.

    They are both quite interesting to watch, Grishy talks to himself, he is clearly playing
    the game in his minds eye, his eyes flit over the board, Gelfand looks inside himself,
    holds his head in his hands, quite amusing to watch.
  2. e4
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    19 May '11 12:462 edits
    Yeah meant 14...e4 (I'm not going back to edit it again to correct things).

    White's on the ice. He is going to have play Bxf6 get the Queens off.
    Then we should get a lone passer on d5 v a White Queenside majority.
    (or something like.)

    Edit:
    He's gone for Bxf6 but Black has played e4 (that's two out of two wrong) 🙂
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    19 May '11 13:04
    OK one last shot at this before I get bored.

    White to play.


    He will play Ke3 as the more obvious Kc3 will allow an eventual Be6 gaining
    a tempo on the c4 pawn.
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    19 May '11 13:11
    Originally posted by greenpawn34
    OK one last shot at this before I get bored.

    White to play.

    [fen]r1b3k1/pp3ppp/8/8/1PPr4/P4p2/3K1PPP/2R2B1R w - - 0 6[/fen]
    He will play Ke3 as the more obvious Kc3 will allow an eventual Be6 gaining
    a tempo on the c4 pawn.
    watch the Russian site, its actually quite entertaining. Grishy is thinking and they are playing some funky disco beat.
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    19 May '11 13:181 edit
    I'm happy where I am with no noise or crappy commentary.
    These guys don't know what they are talking about.....😕

    Anyway some sites I try get on won't let me because my kit is so naff.
    I get prompted to upload the latest flash driver thingy.

    Grischuk is taking ages to find 19.Ke3 he has fallen behind on the clock.
    I think he still has a pull....perhaps letting his time go so he can offer a draw.
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    19 May '11 13:221 edit
    19.Kc3? - that's greepawn 0 these couple of dummies 3.

    I'm off to look at the games in 1400 DB where the real chess players hang out.
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    19 May '11 13:241 edit
    3 from 3 😉
    Perhaps a little mistake of Grischuk
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    19 May '11 13:291 edit
    Originally posted by elady
    3 from 3 😉
    Perhaps a little mistake of Grischuk
    my dear Lady, Gelfand will be fortunate if he survives this. You know its true. Hes, dare i say it, playing for a draw as we speak, the shame of it! 🙂
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    19 May '11 13:47
    Here we are.


    Black has just played 21...Be6 that is the developing with tempo move
    I was wanting to stop. Though looking at now White still has the tug.
  10. Standard memberno1marauder
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    19 May '11 15:41
    Draw but it was a pretty interesting and instructive endgame esp. for those of us who hate endgames (which is everybody, isn't it?).
  11. on your backrank!
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    19 May '11 17:27
    endgames are difficult. in this particular game I had no idea if Grischuk was winning or if it was a draw. i hope others feel the same way.
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    20 May '11 00:021 edit
    Analysis of the game here by Dennis Monokroussos

    http://www.thechessmind.net/storage/chess-posts/candidates2011_f_1.htm

    Apparently the 14 e4 I wanted to play here.


    Had been played before and Gelf's 14.Re8 was a TN.
    (He wasted a lot of time playing this TN if it was preparation.)

    My 19.Ke3 here does not rate a mention.


    The plan being Black would have to spend a tempo holding the b-pawn
    rather than swapping the c-pawn (my candidate passer) for the b-pawn
    as what happened in the game.

    Highlights a known weakness I have when I have a development lead.
    I take risks to keep it. Sometimes it works, sometimes it fails and Black
    equalises with my pieces on iffy squares. (still think it's OK...ish...) 😉
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    20 May '11 06:251 edit
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    my dear Lady, Gelfand will be fortunate if he survives this. You know its true. Hes, dare i say it, playing for a draw as we speak, the shame of it! 🙂
    1. I'm not lady, sorry 😛
    2. Gelfand is one of the best endgamers in the world, he showed great defence. ...Bc8 was the move that saved the game.
    3. It's ok to play as black for a draw in the final. Btw Kasparov played almost every game for a win, but he also used this variation of QG
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    20 May '11 07:182 edits
    Originally posted by elady
    1. I'm not lady, sorry 😛
    2. Gelfand is one of the best endgamers in the world, he showed great defence. ...Bc8 was the move that saved the game.
    3. It's ok to play as black for a draw in the final. Btw Kasparov played almost every game for a win, but he also used this variation of QG
    1.Ok so just like to be a virtual lady im cool with that.
    2.Yes he did manage to save the game his defence was outstanding, ...Bc8 was a great
    move, we were in fact all wondering what he was doing allowing b6, indeed i thought
    he was going to exchange rook for bishop and pawn, but he had much better idea than
    that.
    3.How is it ok to play for a draw as black???, you should be fighting first for equality
    and then the initiative, no excuses, no wussy stuff. Citing that another player also
    used this variation to win hardly lends credence to Gelfands own play, but never the
    less, i like the old guy, he did good.
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    20 May '11 14:251 edit
    ooooh Boris is in hot water, his rook is virtually trapped on f4 and Grishy is piling on the
    pressure its as if hes playing with an extra piece, if Gelfy survives it will miraculous.
    Listen to chess.fm for Yasser and Larrys commentary, no computers!


    http://www.chessclub.com/chessfm/
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