Remember the Borg, the Cyborgs and all those Terminator movies. The future of humanity is in their hands.Well as someone said they don`t know when to stop, it works as addiction does. But most people notice this happening and put a limit on their habit.
We will become mindless automations, having sex for fun whilst robots rule the world.[/b]
Related to chess, I notice that I am changing my playing habits as I get experience; moving more carefully, not making decisions after arguing with partners or under the influence, realising that my creativity increases as I spend longer making my moves... All this escapes the engine addict. Not to mention the utter pointlessness of winning for its own sake, or of an improved rating.
Originally posted by chessisvanityI don't know if I would want them shot, but I think they need to be hauled outside and have the living daylights beat out of them!!
I wouldn't have a problem with walking through a metal detector before entering a tournament.
I'd even let them search me. When I hear about these guys "cheating".....well....if someone shot him in the head and his brains splattered into my mouth ...i'd say...."is it my move or yours?"
That's the problem with the cheats at a tournament-- if they are caught, they are ejected from playing-- big deal... there is no real punishment for these subhuman chess thugs!!
Also disturbing is the trend in OTB to accuse someone of cheating just because you are losing, or the game suddenly seems to turn in your opponents favor, so the desire to avoid taking a loss or having to admit to bad play is overruled by the "move" of claiming "he/she cheated" and putting that person on the defensive and people then starting to wonder if they did cheat.
The Tim Taylor incident was bizarre also-- why would an IM need help against weaker players?
Then there's the IM who keeps winning and they are almost certain he has help, but they can never detect how he is doing it. One of his opponents stated he is either a world class GM or he is using computer assistance to win because the position in their game was so complex that a very strong player would need 15 minutes to determine the right move!
Computers aren't a threat to the game-- these cheats are and need to be dealt with in a severe way!
That must be a "small" tournament as games at modern tornaments have a press centre where GMs analyse and disect the moves so any computer play will stand out quickly. Normal tournament conditions means you cannot access a computer/speak on your mobile phone without the danger of being kicked out.
The GM games relayed onto the playchess broadcasting room by Seirawan also have GMs like Kasparov kibitzing and in the World championship games spectators are treated onto deep analysis sometimes over things missed by the players.
Originally posted by DawgHausHow on earth can you cheat at blitz?
Out of curiousity, at RHP is it considering cheating to use computer assistance for Blitz games but not for regular games? I mean, obviously it is, but is it 3(b)?
Surely the time taken to switch between RHP and your chosen engine and input the moves would be such that a loss on time would be a virtual certainty.
Originally posted by Dragon FireNo, there are ways. But there are ways your can set it up where you can just leave your computer for hours at a time and let your engine pick up free points.
How on earth can you cheat at blitz?
Surely the time taken to switch between RHP and your chosen engine and input the moves would be such that a loss on time would be a virtual certainty.
Yahoo is pretty famous for this. I once saw someone rated something like 5800.
Originally posted by GalaxyShieldBasically you are saying that (if you know what you are doing) you can automate it and just set the engine to play without needing any intervention from you.
No, there are ways. But there are ways your can set it up where you can just leave your computer for hours at a time and let your engine pick up free points.
Yahoo is pretty famous for this. I once saw someone rated something like 5800.
What a sad thing to resort to.
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Originally posted by Dragon FireYup, that's pretty much it. We have those occasionally here, too. Someone like meman (3[b}) made loads of moves per month (at least more than 3000 as far as I can remember). Although, GuaravV is probably the best example (although he apparently did play some games by himself, to keep his rating lowish).
Basically you are saying that (if you know what you are doing) you can automate it and just set the engine to play without needing any intervention from you.
What a sad thing to resort to.
Still looking for an answer - if you use a computer to give you moves for Blitz games on RHP, is that grounds for a 3(b) banning? Note that I'm not asking about the character of the person in question, just whether it's a rule violation. Because if so, there's a certain person that due to get reported... 😉
Originally posted by DawgHausWhy should it make any difference?
Still looking for an answer - if you use a computer to give you moves for Blitz games on RHP, is that grounds for a 3(b) banning? Note that I'm not asking about the character of the person in question, just whether it's a rule violation. Because if so, there's a certain person that due to get reported... 😉
Using an engine at blitz is contary to TOS section 3(b) - simple!
