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hi there,

I'm a new subscriber and I have to add my words to all the players who are living with the cheating fear.

I think it kills the game but more than that it kill this site. I'm a novice player just starting from the bottom so I'm not wasting too much time with cheating players (it seems they are caught when they reach over 2000 rating) but I'm doing better day after day and books are coming and so on.. I don't think next january I'll be renewing my subscription if I will not feel "safe" playing here.

I haven't got easy solutions.. maybe it could be useful to think at some automatic random game checking with a couple of engines and if the user is found with a more then 85% moves martching the site will check his/her other games and after a number of games with this % are found the user is banned or something like that.

Sorry for my poor english.

Wish the best,

Marco.

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Originally posted by mfoolb
I haven't got easy solutions.. maybe it could be useful to think at some automatic random game checking with a couple of engines and if the user is found with a more then 85% moves martching the site will check his/her other games and after a number of games with this % are found the user is banned or something like that.
How do you know that this isn't happening already?

Relax, unless you match up with engines move after move, you can improve as much as you naturally can, without fear.

D

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Originally posted by mfoolb
hi there,

I'm a new subscriber and I have to add my words to all the players who are living with the cheating fear.

I think it kills the game but more than that it kill this site. I'm a novice player just starting from the bottom so I'm not wasting too much time with cheating players (it seems they are caught when they reach over 2000 rating) but I'm do ...[text shortened]... anned or something like that.

Sorry for my poor english.

Wish the best,

Marco.
There is nothing to fear about cheating. Just play and enjoy.

If you lose to a cheater, so what! It will not affect your game or your ability to improve. This is a great site so stick with it.

If someone wants to cheat they will do it which ever site they are on - it is certainly not unique to RHP so have no fear about renewing your subscription.

Also unless your grade rises above 2000 (or even 2200) then you are unlikely to play them except in the very early stages of their membership.

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Hi Marco,

I'd agree with Ragnorak that I wouldn't worry about it so much. In reality, the amount that use assistance compared to how many players there are on the site is very very small. I've been playing a while here and have never even played a player who has since been banned.

The best thing is to play your games as normal and not worry about the whole cheating thing, it very rarely affects players at our level.

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Originally posted by JDK2
I've been playing a while here and have never even played a player who has since been banned.
That's lucky - I've played around half of them.

I agree with your general point. The only cases where it's really annoying are when they're on the way up and you get hammered for ratings points, and where they take tournaments off non-engine users who don't get the encouragement of having a tournament victory to their name.

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I suspect that a very small percentage of moves on this site are made by players getting them from engines, but with thousands of players making many thousands of moves per day, some cheating does occur. These few generate a lot of discussion.

I played a reasonably good game with Mary Ann before she was banned. The tactic that won for her was one I should have seen.

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Even if Kramnik, Topalov, Kasperov et al, played anonymously at RHP they would be safe.

And the reason is quite simple. They play like human beings, not engines.

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Originally posted by mfoolb
hi there,

I'm a new subscriber and I have to add my words to all the players who are living with the cheating fear.

I think it kills the game but more than that it kill this site. I'm a novice player just starting from the bottom so I'm not wasting too much time with cheating players (it seems they are caught when they reach over 2000 rating) but I'm do ...[text shortened]... anned or something like that.

Sorry for my poor english.

Wish the best,

Marco.
I am a new subscriber also, and I don't think anyone I have played with has cheated. I have lost on my own stupid blunders. As has already been said, we don't even have to worry about cheaters. It is usually those over the 2000 mark it seems that has been caught.
I use to worry far too much about rating, as was suggested just enjoy the games. Have fun with the game !!!

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I doubt the move by move engine players are killing this site. The real ones you have to worry about are the ones that use it only once or twice a game.

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Originally posted by Ragnorak
Relax, unless you match up with engines move after move, you can improve as much as you naturally can, without fear.

D
If I understood him correctly, he wasn't worried about getting banned for engine use if he made too much progress, but about having to play against cheaters.

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Originally posted by Nordlys
If I understood him correctly, he wasn't worried about getting banned for engine use if he made too much progress, but about having to play against cheaters.
It's open to interpretation from his original post.
"I'm doing better day after day and books are coming and so on.. I don't think next january I'll be renewing my subscription if I will not feel "safe" playing here. "

Could be he won't feel safe in improving, because he thinks he might be branded a cheat. Could be how you interpret it.

D

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Originally posted by Ragnorak
It's open to interpretation from his original post.
"I'm doing better day after day and books are coming and so on.. I don't think next january I'll be renewing my subscription if I will not feel "safe" playing here. "

Could be he won't feel safe in improving, because he thinks he might be branded a cheat. Could be how you interpret it.

D
LOL...Perhaps it is time to get the Philly Lawyers to do an interpretation. (joking of course)

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Originally posted by Very Rusty
LOL...Perhaps it is time to get the Philly Lawyers to do an interpretation. (joking of course)
Where's the marauder when we need him?

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Originally posted by Nordlys
Where's the marauder when we need him?
He is busy arguing with dottewell. 😉

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I disagree Gate, wou;dn't they be more likely to match up with engine use? They study so many lines, that usually they would know the best ones for them to play.