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RJHinds is the new Skeeter.
I still think I could beat him OTB.
I still think I could beat him OTB.
Originally posted by kaminskyI would like to make it clear that no offence was meant to be made to fat lady , I was just comparing graphs .
Fat lady's graph looks a lot like RJHINDs , I'm so far down the food chain that I couldn't tell how a better player beats me , but if there is no statistical proof RJHIND is a cheat I'd lay off him , what if he doesn't cheat , what does that make you lot.
Originally posted by RJHindsPerhaps Fritz posted it.
I stand corrected. I did not remember it that way. I am indeed a liar and in need of forgiveness. I will make a note of that and will discontinue my posts on the Chess Forum. Thank you. Are you willing to forgive me?
The Instructor
Originally posted by kaminskyStatistical proof is sooo last year. The problem with RJ is that from a chess perspective every time the mouth opens the foot goes in.
Fat lady's graph looks a lot like RJHINDs , I'm so far down the food chain that I couldn't tell how a better player beats me , but if there is no statistical proof RJHIND is a cheat I'd lay off him , what if he doesn't cheat , what does that make you lot.
Originally posted by thaughbaerThe initial question is quite interesting for computers certainly dont play chess like humans, but if you have seen any of the latest super GMs games you will discern that humans are playing more and more like computers.
Statistical proof is sooo last year. The problem with RJ is that from a chess perspective every time the mouth opens the foot goes in.
Originally posted by SwissGambitI think Russ should be able to turn up at your house randomly and conduct a spot check. Anyone who is out or if Russ is sent away by their Mum should be automatically banned.
If their play matches a top engine's moves too often, they probably are using them. It's true that this method will only catch the more blatant cheats. But what else can you do?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThis idea often crops up, although I've yet to find any proof which supports it...
The initial question is quite interesting for computers certainly dont play chess like humans, but if you have seen any of the latest super GMs games you will discern that humans are playing more and more like computers...
Originally posted by e4chrisI'm not sure I understand. Are you saying it is laborious to use a computer to find moves to play on RHP? Because that is very very easy - you just copy the PGN, paste into the engine, and it's done.
I'm waiting for a thread on the best chess engines out right now... I don't believe many people on this / any site copy moves from a computer - Now and then I play a computer, enter the game into a pgn writer, then post on here, its quite laborious I wouldn't do it for every game on here, it seems very unlikely that many would...
Agree that master chess will get more computeresque - I think computers are editing opening theory a lot these days...
Originally posted by aquatabbyits easy alright for 1 game, but every move in every game? even if you wanted to you'd need a secretary
I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying it is laborious to use a computer to find moves to play on RHP? Because that is very very easy - you just copy the PGN, paste into the engine, and it's done.
I haven't studied top GM games, but it would surprise me if humans are playing more like computers. We can no more learn to play chess like a computer than we can learn to fly by watching a 747. We just work differently.
Originally posted by e4chrisIt would certainly be quicker than thinking about the move! I'm not sure how much time I spend on average on each move ... maybe 5-10 minutes spread over 3-4 days, at a guess. Using an engine would take about 30 seconds. Just Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V, wait 30 seconds, then pick the engine's top move, go back to the browser, and enter it.
its easy alright for 1 game, but every move in every game? even if you wanted to you'd need a secretary
Originally posted by Zygalskithank goodness, a sane reply amidst all the RJHinds furore, what I mean is, if you go to a site like chessbomb.com and observe one of the games, say Carlsen v Kamsky, Carlsen did not, according to the computer evaluation make a sub optimal move the entire game. His choice may not have been the computers first choice, second or even third (more often or not it was though) but it was not a suboptimal move either. Thus it appears to me that a purely statistical evaluation based upon percentages of first, second, third or fourth do not tell the entire picture, or the designation, optimal/suboptimal is based upon a different set of parameters.
This idea often crops up, although I've yet to find any proof which supports it...
A few months ago I went to chessgames.com & looked at Carlsen's games & selected games under the following criteria:
20 most recently completed vs top players (lowest rated being Gawain Jones FIDE 2632) which all have at least 20 non-theory moves. To be fair, I avoided all ...[text shortened]... ) Opponents: 667/821 ( 81.2% )
{ Top 4 Match: 732/828 ( 88.4% ) Opponents: 709/821 ( 86.4% )