Game 1343456
Here, my opponent took a time-out win in a completely drawn out position that could be played forever. (before ppl judge, I suggest you look at the position) I offered him a draw several times, he refused, and unfortunenately, it was 1 day, zero time bank, and I knew I couldn't log on Friday. Please don't say, "if you didn't have the time, why accept the game?", because I played the game long ago, and as I said, this could go on forever and I doubt I could log on to play it to eternity. I suggest RHP ban this said individual and reinstate my lost rating pts, again, before you judge, look at the game position...
Originally posted by DeadBeSwallowedYou have no acceptable reason to complain, let alone asking for a ban of your opponent. You can regret that he didn't accept your draw offer, and considered claiming the win points to be more important than a friendly draw agreement, but it all happened within the rules.
Game 1343456
Here, my opponent took a time-out win in a completely drawn out position that could be played forever. (before ppl judge, I suggest you look at the position) I offered him a draw several times, he refused, and unfortunenately, it was 1 day, zero time bank, and I knew I couldn't log on Friday. Please don't say, "if you didn't ...[text shortened]... dividual and reinstate my lost rating pts, again, before you judge, look at the game position...
Why don't you look again at this game and learn from it? You missed the win earlier in the game (e.g. move 32.Qc3 won), and so did he later on (36.Rxa2, or 42.Qa4+ leading to a win of a rook).
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Originally posted by DeadBeSwallowedI agree that the game should have been a draw with best play. However your opponent did nothing wrong with claiming the time out. If you cannot make moves every day then you really shouldn't accept 1 day TO games, especially if there's no timebank.
Game 1343456
Here, my opponent took a time-out win in a completely drawn out position that could be played forever. (before ppl judge, I suggest you look at the position) I offered him a draw several times, he refused, and unfortunenately, it was 1 day, zero time bank, and I knew I couldn't log on Friday. Please don't say, "if you didn't ...[text shortened]... dividual and reinstate my lost rating pts, again, before you judge, look at the game position...
The game wouldn't have gone on forever, as the position had already been repeated a couple of times and in all likelihood would be repeated a third time, enabling you to claim a draw. So you just needed to hang on (and keep making daily moves) for a few more days.
As for banning your opponent - I repeat, he did nothing wrong.
Also points lost by time-out are never reinstated.
Originally posted by Mephisto2Yes, I am aware the game was filled with blunders, in fact, it's one of the worse games I have played so far on RHP, and still, it's a draw, I was emotionally killed this game when I blundered a peice, and so forth, and missed obvious chances to win despite that. The point is not what happened beforehand, but looking at the position now, it's a dead draw, and he had no reason to take a win off a time-out other then to be an arse. Ooops, I forgot, RHP cares more about bashing the complainers then the abusers, so for now on I'll shut up about this, but the time-outs are not meant as a means for you to get wins off drawn positions played endlessly. In a tournament, I'd go to the TD and this would of been claimed a draw long ago, that's my two cents...
You have no acceptable reason to complain, let alone asking for a ban of your opponent. You can regret that he didn't accept your draw offer, and considered claiming the win points to be more important than a friendly draw agreement, but it all happened within the rules.
Why don't you look again at this game and learn from it? You missed the win earl ...[text shortened]... (e.g. move 32.Qc3 won), and so did he later on (36.Rxa2, or 42.Qa4+ leading to a win of a rook).
Originally posted by David TebbRead what I said, I did have time throughout the first few weeks, I just couldn't log on unexpectedly on Friday, I expected the game to be finished by then, and obviously, it was...
I agree that the game should have been a draw with best play. However your opponent did nothing wrong with claiming the time out. If you cannot make moves every day then you really shouldn't accept 1 day TO games, especially if there's no timebank.
The game wouldn't have gone on forever, as the position had already been repeated a couple of times a ...[text shortened]... - I repeat, [b]he did nothing wrong.
Also points lost by time-out are never reinstated.[/b]
I'd just like to state, that I'm very emotional over this issue. This is common among class players, that in completely drawn out positions, they try to run out your clocks. While in higher lvls of chess, there is a certain etiquette not to do this, they often do it at class lvl. They think they deserve the win because they "have more time" (be it, on RHP, it's hard to make that argument even), I know this is a never ending debate beteewn those with sportsmanship (accepting the obvious draw) and those who are egotistical arrogants (thinking they deserve the win in a drawn position because "they have more time"😉, and it could be a whole topic in itself, but I am very emotional over this, because I get nailed this way ALL THE TIME in tournaments...
ive won a few games by timeouts. but ive only taken that option when my opponent is refusing to move. like it been a bloody month since ive last heard from them. then i take that option to get the game out of my hair. timeouts shouldnt be a way to win games. like that shmuck who timed out Dantes just to say he beat him. he knows who he is. thats just bad sportsmanship. Dantes was the top player on the site, im sure he wasnt abandoning the game. when the games are abandoned, time outs should be taken, thats what they're there for, not cheap wins when your opponent cant make it. as for deadbeswallowed, sorry dude, thats just how it works with some people.
Pffft, I'm leaving RHP anwyays, I see the same GARBAGE is still ongoing, mostly by the pile of regular posters making the site suck. Any NORMAL chess player would defend my position, but on RHP with the "me first attitude, hahaa!" and such unsportsmanship, I'm off! Heck, Yahoo, which you guys complain about, is classier half the time...
Originally posted by DeadBeSwallowedNo, they play quickly. The timebank is there specifically so that games don't last forever - as is the 50-move rule.
In drawn positions, they don't play forever to run out the opponents clock, don't be a sarcastic know-it-all...
I have no sympathy for you whatsoever.
Originally posted by zakkwylderThanks, finally someone with some insight and class. It wasn't like I was "delaying" a drawn out game and deserved to be timed out, nope, my opponent was the one delaying by not accepting a draw, praying for a time-out win, which he got. Unfortunenately, you do not have a high rating, so nobody will listen to you. I find, on RHP, you want to be respected and listened to, you better have a 2000 plus rating at least, and unfortunenately, most of the high raters here, behaviour wise, are not true ambassadors to the game (there are some exceptions), Tebb, normally I respect you, but in this case, I think you are wrong, time-outs should not be used as a method to gain wins in drawn games, that's not their purpose...
ive won a few games by timeouts. but ive only taken that option when my opponent is refusing to move. like it been a bloody month since ive last heard from them. then i take that option to get the game out of my hair. timeouts shouldnt be a way to win games. like that shmuck who timed out Dantes just to say he beat him. he knows who he is. thats just bad ...[text shortened]... nent cant make it. as for deadbeswallowed, sorry dude, thats just how it works with some people.
Originally posted by DeadBeSwallowedWould you like some wah-burgers with your Red Whine?
Pffft, I'm leaving RHP anwyays, I see the same GARBAGE is still ongoing, mostly by the pile of regular posters making the site suck. Any NORMAL chess player would defend my position, but on RHP with the "me first attitude, hahaa!" and such unsportsmanship, I'm off! Heck, Yahoo, which you guys complain about, is classier half the time...