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Funny how no one twigged :-)

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Funny, and almost impossible to believe as this exact same trick has often been discussed by chess players when they meet, I must have first heard about it 25 years ago. Indeed I think it was tried once by one of the minor teams in the chess olympiad years before Mr Brown's stunt.

I believe the players were asked to go along with the trick, perhaps with some sort of financial incentive.

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This is from only a few days back.

http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=70267

Its an interesting trick.

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Originally posted by Jake Ellison
This is from only a few days back.

http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=70267

Its an interesting trick.
Thread 70267

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Thanks... couldn't see how to do that.

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What was the rating of the weakest player?

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Originally posted by Jake Ellison
Thanks... couldn't see how to do that.
It's listed in FAQ in the Help index. 🙂

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I have just watched this trick from the youtube link. But how could he predict the number of pieces that would be left on each board?

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What was the rating of the weakest player?

Allegedly about 2200.
http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=1610

However he played in this inter-University tournament:
http://www.sunion.warwick.ac.uk/chess/intermr3.html
and didn't do particularly well. I know most of the Oxford players and judging by the results there I can't see how Robert Chan can be higher than 150 ECF, and that's being generous.

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Originally posted by Fat Lady
What was the rating of the weakest player?

Allegedly about 2200.
http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=1610

However he played in this inter-University tournament:
http://www.sunion.warwick.ac.uk/chess/intermr3.html
and didn't do particularly well. I know most of the Oxford players and judging by the results there I can't see how Robert Chan can be higher than 150 ECF, and that's being generous.
hmm, still not so easy to win against a 2200 player after a year of chess(as he said)...
I doubt that he would win against a 2200 (especially in a simul, where he does not concentrate on a single game...

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Originally posted by vipiu
hmm, still not so easy to win against a 2200 player after a year of chess(as he said)...
I doubt that he would win against a 2200 (especially in a simul, where he does not concentrate on a single game...
What if he spent one year preparing to play that player, analysing every game ... perhaps with GM/IM assistance?

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Originally posted by demonseed
What if he spent one year preparing to play that player, analysing every game ... perhaps with GM/IM assistance?
Or he was lying (as he openly admits he does sometimes to create better effect) and that he is actually a pretty damn good player. Perhaps also he put the opponent in a mindset where he wouldnt play as well, using the nerves of being on telly to make him not very confident, added with derren playing wild and confidentally? I dont know how he would do it but im sure he would be capable of making that guy play less well somehow.

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the most fun is reading some of the ridiculous comments made by the youtube posters under the video

but beating a 2200 player after just reading and studying for a year is a bit improbable imo, so he probably lied about beating #9 on his own.

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