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Originally posted by RJHinds
Well, since I have never tried to annotate a game in my life, that is
probably what it would sound like to you and other skeptics. Perhaps,
it would be better to just ask a question about a particular game that
you do not understand.
It does not have to be a whole game, just one move will do. Take the move h3 for example. There are lots of reasons for playing such a move. But it is well known that every pawn move creates a weakness. So it better be a good reason.

So what is a good reason?

Well, avoiding checkmate could give me an overpowering urge to play such a move(backrank mate ect). But there are many more less extreme reasons. Even Fritz's fav, controlling g4 makes sense if a bishop pinning a knight on f3 is gonna be a pain. You could write a book about that one move. A master strength player such as yourself would be able to manage a few sentances, I think.

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Don't metion h-pawns. The longer it stays on the h2 the stronger it is!

(Though to be fair it was RJ's opponents job to accept the draw offer......
...You did offer a draw RJ....telll me you offered a draw....) 😉

Levon Sargissian (2317) - RJHinds (2267) RHP 2012.

Go straight to move 71.


Originally posted by RJHinds
Well, since I have never tried to annotate a game in my life, that is
probably what it would sound like to you and other skeptics. Perhaps,
it would be better to just ask a question about a particular game that
you do not understand.
this is forehead slapping material.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
Well, since I have never tried to annotate a game in my life, that is
probably what it would sound like to you and other skeptics. Perhaps,
it would be better to just ask a question about a particular game that
you do not understand.
OK - I'd love to hear an explanation of Black's 19 move in this game. I'm sure I would learn something, because I don't understand it anyway I look at it.

Game 8179299

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Originally posted by Erekose
OK - I'd love to hear an explanation of Black's 19 move in this game. I'm sure I would learn something, because I don't understand it anyway I look at it.

Game 8179299
You don't need Hinds to answer that, I can do it.

It's a blunder, pure and simple. He overlooked a bit being covered, I'll bet.

Richard

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Originally posted by greenpawn34
Don't metion h-pawns. The longer it stays on the h2 the stronger it is!

(Though to be fair it was RJ's opponents job to accept the draw offer......
...You did offer a draw RJ....telll me you offered a draw....) 😉

[b]Levon Sargissian (2317) - RJHinds (2267) RHP 2012.


Go straight to move 71.

[pgn]
[Event "Challenge"]
[Site "http://www. 7. Kg6h6 Kh8g8 78. Kh6g6 Kg8h8 79. Kg6h6 Kh8g8 80. Kh6g6 Kg8h8[/pgn][/b]
Yes, you are right. This game was against a very strong player from Armenia.
He started off with the King's Fianchetto, which he turned into an English
on his 2nd move. I am not a master player as some may think, but I have a
couple reasons for moving the king rook pawn up one. The main reason for me
is to provide an escape square when the King is castled. On move move 13,
when he attacks my bishop with 13.Na4, I could have just move it to a7. But
I see that if he takes the bishop I can recapture with the pawn which attacks
his knight. The knight can't move because of the pin by my queen. If he moves
Nf3 then Nxf3+ wins his queen. So I decide to set the trap and give my king
the escape square with 13...,h6. By move 50, I was just playing for a draw.
My last chance was 63,,,Rxe3 hoping his king would recapture the rook. But
he decides to trade down hoping for a 3 pawn against two pawn advantage. But
65....Rxfe+ equals the number of pawns to two against two and I offered him
a draw. But since he had the ouside past pawn he apparently believed my king
would be drawn away and he could gobble up my pawns and queen his rook pawn.
It was now his turn to offer the draw but on move 71 that you referenced he
just took the pawn. So I thought I would heip him out and I sent him the
following reference indicating this was a draw and I knew how to play it.

Barcza vs. Fischer, 1959
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_and_pawn_versus_king_endgame

But he continued playing on until I claimed the draw.

P.S. I guess he thought he was better than Bobby Fischer.

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Originally posted by Proper Knob
Because some people cheat, simple as that. When someone with an 1800 OTB rating gets higher engine match up rates than a Soviet GM winning the ICCF World Championship people might get a little suspicious.
And some people with a high opinion of their chess prowess get butthurt because they lost a game they think they should have won, and decide to "make them pay, dammit."

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Originally posted by Suzianne
And some people with a high opinion of their chess prowess get butthurt because they lost a game they [b]think they should have won, and decide to "make them pay, dammit."[/b]
Que?!

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Originally posted by Erekose
OK - I'd love to hear an explanation of Black's 19 move in this game. I'm sure I would learn something, because I don't understand it anyway I look at it.

Game 8179299
I looked this game up in my folder and it was the 11th game I finished and
the first of several I played with cristian971. I started this game on Feb 10,
2011 and finished the next day. The first two games I played were finished
in one day, Jan 24, 2011. They were Game Id 8125715 and 8125746 which
I won. I lost the game you referenced because of blunders like move 19. I
just did not see the knight. At that time I was playing these games fast and
like OTB games. I had not yet started to consult opening books and had
not discovered the analyze board. I surely I would not have overlooked
the big knight if I had slowed down and especially if I were using the analyze
board at that time. I do blunders like this all the time OTB, especially when
I play fast.

P.S. Most of the people I play now only play one move a day. I have a
winning record against Cristian971 but he was a good match for OTB play.
At that time I was rated 1467 and he was 1578.

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Originally posted by Shallow Blue
You don't need Hinds to answer that, I can do it.

It's a blunder, pure and simple. He overlooked a bit being covered, I'll bet.

Richard
Well, I was trying to give Mr Hinds the benefit of the doubt on this.

You see, if he just missed that it was guarded by the knight, its not very consistent with his explanation recent ratings rise. "Using the analysis" board is not helpful if you miss 1 move tactics.

On the other hand, maybe it was a botched sacrifice or botched multimove combination. These things happen and it would certainly be consistent with having some improvement by using the analysis board. I just don't see what he could have had in mind and I was hoping he could explain it.

By the way, I discount moves like the last move of the game where Mr Hinds leaves his rook en prise. His position was pretty bad at this point and maybe he wasn't paying much attention or just desperate.

Oops - I see Mr Hinds answered this while I was typing this response. I guess the logic above still stands.


Originally posted by Erekose
Well, I was trying to give Mr Hinds the benefit of the doubt on this.

You see, if he just missed that it was guarded by the knight, its not very consistent with his explanation recent ratings rise. "Using the analysis" board is not helpful if you miss 1 move tactics.

On the other hand, maybe it was a botched sacrifice or botched multimove combination. ...[text shortened]... Hinds answered this while I was typing this response. I guess the logic above still stands.
You are right. I really had no chance at that point. I just wanted to get it
over by that point. And don't forget that was a two day game that could
have been over in one day if we had started early enough. You obviously
never play qiuck OTB game if you have never overlooked something like
that. I had other ideas and plans going through my mind and didn't see
the obvious. It is like Christ referring to the blind leading the blind.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
Yes, you are right. This game was against a very strong player from Armenia.
He started off with the King's Fianchetto, which he turned into an English
on his 2nd move. I am not a master player as some may think, but I have a
couple reasons for moving the king rook pawn up one. The main reason for me
is to provide an escape square when the King is castl ...[text shortened]... ing on until I claimed the draw.

P.S. I guess he thought he was better than Bobby Fischer.
This game was against a very strong player from Armenia.

😞

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Originally posted by RJHinds
You are right. I really had no chance at that point. I just wanted to get it
over by that point. And don't forget that was a two day game that could
have been over in one day if we had started early enough. You obviously
never play qiuck OTB game if you have never overlooked something like
that. I had other ideas and plans going through my mind and didn't see
the obvious. It is like Christ referring to the blind leading the blind.
I've played thousands of 5 min blitz games on ICC (I'm Erekose there, too). Its very very rare that I would do something like that and I've never done it, to my knowledge, in a 15 minute game. Your early games here are filled with simple blunders like this, and then they magically disappear in your later games.

I believe just about everything you've told us - that your OTB rating is probably higher than your actual OTB ability because its provisional on not enough games; I believe your explanation of the game I just asked about; and I believe a lot of the other things you said. But I don't believe you got to 2200 on this site just by using the analysis board. And I hope you're being honest when you say you'll stop using "the analysis board" and fall back to whatever rating below 2000 is appropriate.


When you get my age you get tired of thinking after awhile and want to
take a nap. Being tired can result in poor chess. I was very well rested
when I defeated a class A player OTB recently at the Columbia Chess
Club Championship is South Carolina.

http://columbiachess.blogspot.com.au/2012/02/club-championship-is-underway.html

He had defeated a master OTB recently, too.

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To illustrate level of 1800 - here is my recent OTB game, played against 1800+ (ELO) rated player. Time control - 90 min+30sec per move.



As we can see I did not have to do anything supernatural - my opponent helped me a lot. Should we believe that such a player would be able to reach 2200+ here without engine assistance?

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