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03 Sep '08 19:49

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03 Sep '08 19:49
my question is.
is the dutch defense strong?
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03 Sep '08 20:35
Depends who you ask. It's always served me well.
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03 Sep '08 20:49
Definitly if you play white!

I played it many times as black with moderate succes in cc. Better results in OTB.

At least you decide the opening as black. That a small advantage in cc but more important in otb.
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03 Sep '08 21:04
Originally posted by bot 6
my question is.
is the dutch defense strong?
http://www.youtube.com/user/krakkaskak
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03 Sep '08 21:07
yes
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04 Sep '08 05:02
Originally posted by backfrom1994
Definitly if you play white!

I played it many times as black with moderate succes in cc. Better results in OTB.

At least you decide the opening as black. That a small advantage in cc but more important in otb.
i havent played to many people who have used it. actually i dont think ive played any. but thats one of the reasons its kind of interested me. i havent practiced it enough to make my own variations, but its something i want to get good at
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04 Sep '08 05:04
Originally posted by backfrom1994
Definitly if you play white!

I played it many times as black with moderate succes in cc. Better results in OTB.

At least you decide the opening as black. That a small advantage in cc but more important in otb.
so white opens with f4?
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04 Sep '08 10:45
Originally posted by bot 6
my question is.
is the dutch defense strong?
I think it is very sharp, and gives black good attacking chances.

For the most part, I would recomend playing the Leningrad lines, though if white does some dumb stuff, then the stonewall or classical lines can be handy.
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04 Sep '08 11:23
Originally posted by bot 6
so white opens with f4?
sure, I play reversed leningrad with white as my main opening.
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04 Sep '08 11:28
What about somebody posting a game in the Lenningrad? it maybe very instructive.
I fancy mixing things up aginst 1.d4 myself.
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04 Sep '08 11:55
Originally posted by Talisman
What about somebody posting a game in the Lenningrad? it maybe very instructive.
I fancy mixing things up aginst 1.d4 myself.
yusupov vs bareev 1993

EVENT Munich
SITE Munich
DATE 1993.??.??
ROUND 9
WHITE Artur Yusupov
BLACK Evgeny Bareev
RESULT 0-1
WHITEELO ?
BLACKELO ?
ECO A87
EVENTDATE ?
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[Event "Munich"]
[Site "Munich"]
[Date "1993.??.??"]
[EventDate "?"]
[Round "9"]
[Result "0-1"]
[White "Artur Yusupov"]
[Black "Evgeny Bareev"]
[ECO "A87"]
[WhiteElo "?"]
[BlackElo "?"]
[PlyCount "100"]

1.d4 f5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.c4 g6 4.g3 Bg7 5.Bg2 O-O 6.O-O d6 7.Nc3 Qe8 8.d5 a5 9.Be3 h6 10.h4 Na6 11.Qd2 Kh7 12.Rae1 e5 13.dxe6 Bxe6 14.Nd4 Bxc4 15.Bxb7 Rb8 16.Bc6 Qc8 17.Bf3 Nb4 18.a3 Nbd5 19.Nxd5 Bxd5 20.Nc6 f4 21.Ne7 fxe3 22.Qxe3 Qb7 23.Nxd5 Nxd5 24.Qd3 c6 25.h5 Kh8 26.Qxg6 Rf6 27.Qd3 Nb6 28.b4 axb4 29.axb4 Nd7 30.Qc2 d5 31.Bg2 Ne5 32.b5 cxb5 33.Rd1 Rd8 34.Qb3 Rfd6 35.Qb4 Qb6 36.Rd2 Nc6 37.Qg4 b4 38.Rfd1 Ne5 39.Qh4 b3 40.Rxd5 b2 41.Rxd6 Rxd6 42.Rb1 Rf6 43.e3 Nf3+ 44.Bxf3 Rxf3 45.Qe4 Rf8 46.Qc2 Qf6 47.Kf1 Qe5 48.g4 Qxe3 49.Rxb2 Qh3+ 50.Ke1 Qxg4 0-1
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04 Sep '08 12:03
ivanisevic vs danielsen 2006

EVENT XXII Reykjavik Open
SITE Reykjavik ISL
DATE 2006.03.09
ROUND 4
WHITE Ivan Ivanisevic
BLACK Henrik Danielsen
RESULT 0-1
WHITEELO 2588
BLACKELO 2520
ECO A88
EVENTDATE 2006.03.06
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[Event "XXII Reykjavik Open"]
[Site "Reykjavik ISL"]
[Date "2006.03.09"]
[EventDate "2006.03.06"]
[Round "4"]
[Result "0-1"]
[White "Ivan Ivanisevic"]
[Black "Henrik Danielsen"]
[ECO "A88"]
[WhiteElo "2588"]
[BlackElo "2520"]
[PlyCount "82"]

1. d4 f5 2. c4 Nf6 3. Nc3 d6 4. Nf3 g6 5. g3 Bg7 6. Bg2 O-O 7. O-O c6 8. b3 Na6 9. Ba3 Qa5 10. Qc1 Bd7 11. Rb1 b5 12. b4 Qd8 13. d5 Rc8 14. dxc6 Bxc6 15. cxb5 Bxf3 16. exf3 Ne4 17. fxe4 Rxc3 18. Qd1 Rxa3 19. bxa6 f4 20. b5 Kh8 21. Qd5 Be5 22. Rb3 Rxa2 23. gxf4 Rxf4 24. Rd3 Qg8 25. Qb7 Qc4 26. Rf3 Rxf3 27. Bxf3 Qf7 28. Bg2 Qf4 29. Qc8+ Kg7 30. Qh3 Ra3 31. f3 Ra2 32. Kh1 Rb2 33. Qg3 Qxg3 34. hxg3 Bxg3 35. Rc1 Bf4 36. Rd1 Rxb5 37. Bf1 Rb2 38. Rd5 Rf2 39. Bg2 Ra2 40. Bf1 Kf6 41. Bb5 Be5 0-1
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04 Sep '08 14:25
Originally posted by Squelchbelch
http://www.youtube.com/user/krakkaskak
You may play 1. f4, but do you call it the "Polar Bear"?

🙂

Seriously though, if any of you haven't gotten around to Henrik's site, it's a wonderful site. www.videochess.net
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04 Sep '08 15:00
Originally posted by sh76
You may play 1. f4, but do you call it the "Polar Bear"?
well, it's reversed leningrad, or a bird, but as practically no theory exists for it, danielsen renamed it as 'polar bear'.

grrrr! 🙂
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04 Sep '08 17:31
I've always had a soft spot for the Classical, but it appears at least to me that White can gain a healthy edge.

EVENT	Munich
SITE	Munich
DATE	1993.??.??
ROUND	9
WHITE	Artur Yusupov
BLACK	Evgeny Bareev
RESULT	0-1
WHITEELO	?
BLACKELO	?
ECO	A87
EVENTDATE	?

EVENT	XXII Reykjavik Open
SITE	Reykjavik ISL
DATE	2006.03.09
ROUND	4
WHITE	Ivan Ivanisevic
BLACK	Henrik Danielsen
RESULT	0-1
WHITEELO	2588
BLACKELO	2520
ECO	A88
EVENTDATE	2006.03.06

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