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  1. 25 Oct '06 19:36
    I was watching Eggheads today (don't panic I always video Home and Away as they clash)
    The losing team were all female chess players, captained I think by Cathy Forbes, does anyone know who the other players were, and do any of them play here? I might join their clan
    thanks
    x
  2. 25 Oct '06 20:07
    Heather Lang was one of the team. She e-mailed me to say she was going to be on the program but I didn`t realise that it was a chess players team!
  3. 25 Oct '06 20:26
    Originally posted by Fat Lady
    Heather Lang was one of the team. She e-mailed me to say she was going to be on the program but I didn`t realise that it was a chess players team!
    That Keppler cow is annoying.
    I want to wipe that hideous smirk off her over-lipsticked face.

    As for C.J...
  4. 25 Oct '06 20:28
    Originally posted by Squelchbelch
    That Keppler cow is annoying.
    I want to wipe that hideous smirk off her over-lipsticked face.

    As for C.J...
    Be careful the handsome CJ is mensa chess champion so might be lurking here
  5. 25 Oct '06 20:41
    He sounds like a used car salesman or marketing man.

    Doesn't scare me.
  6. 25 Oct '06 21:18
    I've never seen eggheads, so I googled "eggheads cj" and found his personal website: http://www.demooi.co.uk/chess.htm

    It's written to make him seem like a much stronger player than he is (was). "County Master" indeed! His highest ever BCF grade of 151 is no great shakes, I'd say that correlates to around 1800 on this site.
  7. 25 Oct '06 22:02 / 1 edit
    150 BCF = 2000 ELO using the new formula (ELO = 1250 + (BCF x 5) for BCF < 216).

    Using the old formula, where ELO = 600 + (BCF * 8), 150 would come out at 1800, which I happen to think is much closer to the truth.

    When I played chess regularly I always wanted to be 2000 ELO strength, and finally managed it when I achieved a BCF rating of 180. When I came back to chess after a long layoff I was astonished to find that end of season rating of 173 BCF was supposed to be equivalent to 2115 ELO.
  8. 25 Oct '06 23:44
    After a little digging on the ECF site I found that the team on Eggheads was the "Pride and Prejudice" team from the 4NCL:
    http://www.englishchess.org.uk/national/2006/pride-prejudice_oct06.htm

    Their top board, grandmaster Aaron Summerscale, wasn't on Eggheads as I guess they wanted to keep it "women only".

    Cathy Warwick is the new name of Cathy Forbes. I recognise her, Claire Summerscale and Heather Lang, but I've never seen any of the others before. A pity they didn't have Harriet Hunt in the team, I imagine she'd be pretty good at general knowledge.
  9. 26 Oct '06 00:20
    Oh my God! Kevin Ashman in pink ... no!!!
  10. 26 Oct '06 09:47
    I can't think of any masters (assuming you mean International Masters) anywhere near 173.

    I always thought of a Grandmaster being around 240+ BCF and an International Master around 220+. There are exceptions of course, Neil McDonald managed to become a Grandmaster and his current rating is 217; and Neil Bradbury was an International Master but sometimes his grade would slip below 200.

    Looking at the top players on the ECF site: http://grading.bcfservices.org.uk/engtopplayers.php it looks like the boundary between Grandmaster and International Master is pretty vague now, there are loads of Grandmasters in the 220s and a few International Masters nudging 230.

    Without checking properly, the highest untitled player I can see is Charles Cobb, who is 219 on the BCF list.
  11. 26 Oct '06 10:11
    I thought Michael Adams was England's highest rated player, not Short.
  12. 26 Oct '06 10:21
    Originally posted by Sicilian Smaug
    173 BCF to 208 BCF( Spotted a name on there that I've met with that grade who is IM), maybe I'm wrong but that doesn't seem a huge gap which is why 170s equating to 2100s FIDE rating seems correct. On the lower end of the scale is where I think the old conversion formula was even more inaccurate, there are many strong players on this site with RHP rat ...[text shortened]... 1800(150) which seems very poor especially for the 100, 1750(100)-2000(150) gets my vote.
    If there are players on this site with a BCF otb grade of 100, yet they are rated on RHP somewhere around 2000, then you have to wonder how they can achieve their online success


    my best otb grade (so far!!) was in the 170s by the way
  13. 26 Oct '06 10:22 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Sicilian Smaug
    I didn't see Adams on the list. Not sure why he's omitted. Thought we was first or second.
    Adams is #9 on FIDE world ranking list.
    Short is #28

    http://www.fide.com/ratings/top.phtml?list=men
  14. 26 Oct '06 10:23
    Originally posted by Squelchbelch
    Adams is #9 on FIDE world ranking list.
    Short is #28

    http://www.fide.com/ratings/top.phtml?list=men
    Does he have to compete in some UK events to appear on the BCF list?
  15. 26 Oct '06 10:32
    Are you sure? I can't imagine a 120 BCF player managing to achieve 2000 on this site.

    I've played a great many players graded between 140 and 150 in the last year, and in general they are very weak in one area or another. Some of them are very good at tactics - I always think tactics is the "great equaliser", where a club player can sometimes match a Grandmaster.

    I know several players around 200, and the average International Master will just eat them for breakfast.